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Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by lowkey on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @09:51AM (#40584761)
From the article Texas is home to more Fortune 500 companies than any other state including New York and California.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by mbreese on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:11AM (#40585016)
Texas has the headquarters of many companies, but how many are actually incorporated in Texas? What would the advantages be to a Texas exchange over NYSE or NASDAQ?

I understand the desire for a different marketplace. But no matter where it is, they’ll still have to follow Federal securities laws, which will require some level of red tape.

Many of those companies are national or multi-national companies. For example, Exxon has its headquarters outside of Houston, but is actually incorporated in New Jersey (According to Wikipedia). So, for them, what would the benefit be?

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by AJ007 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:35AM (#40585305)
This is probably just a preemptive move in case of a New York state financial transaction tax and has less to do with any other political issues. This isn't "Texas" setting up their exchange, it's Blackrock and Citadel. The CME had this issue with Chicago/Illinois politicians demanding a financial transaction tax so they are did things to be set up to leave immediately if it passed.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by supplied_demand on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @11:30AM (#40586126)
==The CME had this issue with Chicago/Illinois politicians demanding a financial transaction tax so they are did things to be set up to leave immediately if it passed.==

Has a bill ever even existed to pass in Illinois? This idea seems to be brought up more as a scare tactic from the trading and business community than as a revenue generator from actual politicians.

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by limpbizkitfan on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @12:07PM (#40586678)
Chicago has always been fought over between speculative interests who want parts of the city to remain poor for cheap development, and more “citizen focused” groups that want the resource to be taxed for the betterment of all.

Most of Ken Griffin’s work has been buying his family name on things and repeating anxieties about crime and (lack of) policing without actually providing solutions or even calling out root causes. But again, he’s not really a citizen of Chicago, nor the US. People at his level of control (his admitted price fixing, or moving trades to dark pools) have inherited and expanded on wealth to the point where they don’t need friends or social programs or infrastructure to live out 90 years on the planet.

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by kllrnohj on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:20AM (#40585111)
Don't they all incorporate in Delaware? Isn't that the thing to do because of the courts there?
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by mbreese on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:31AM (#40585243)
That was my assumption too, but it's not across the board. For example, AT&T, Inc (HQ in Dallas) is a Delaware Corp. But, I expect that any of these companies that have many years of history will have complex organizational structures. As such, I'm not sure what benefit a brand new exchange would have for them.

If I were TXSE, what I'd be arguing is that the new market would have a benefit for new companies. Can you list faster with fewer requirements? Will there be capital available on the market? Can an IPO on their market be a replacement for later stage VC?

These are the companies they'd want to recruit.

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by willmadden on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:36AM (#40585338)
Did you read the article? NASDAQ is forcing their listed companies to hire directors based on their sex, race, and sexual orientation. I'm not sure how that is remotely legal.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by Yossarrian22 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:48AM (#40585485)
They can also list in their proxy statement why they don’t have a diverse board
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by willmadden on Sunday June 09, 2024 @12:37PM (#40625620)
"Diverse board" is a euphemism for discriminating against those that are not defined as "diverse".

It puts people in positions of authority based on their ethnicity, biological sex, and sexual orientation and therefore discriminates against others based on their ethnicity, biological sex, and sexual orientation.

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by willmadden on Sunday June 09, 2024 @02:38PM (#40626509)
... and to add, this is an egregious violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by Finnucane on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:53AM (#40585573)
Where does it say that in the article?
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by rco8786 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:07AM (#40584967)
Wikipedia says TX has 49 and CA/NY each have 53.

But regardless of which state has the most at any given moment, even if 100% of Texas F500 companies decided to abandon their existing exchange and investor base for a more relaxed regulatory environment, that's...49 companies.

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by vitus on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @11:29AM (#40586115)
For what it's worth, Wikipedia cites the 2021 list. The 2023 list had Texas at 55: https://www.statesman.com/story/news/local/2023/06/05/texas-...

edit: another commenter points out that California reclaimed the throne in the 2024 list, released just yesterday.

As far as I can tell, there's some amount of movement to Texas for lower corporate taxes (especially companies led by executives like Musk or Ellison who prefer Texas's politics).

I would be surprised if any major companies delist from NYSE / NASDAQ in order to go all-in on a new exchange, although I could see, say, Tesla considering it if it was a condition for an attractive ticker symbol like T (NYSE symbol for AT&T, which is also headquartered in Texas).

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by HWR_14 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:33AM (#40585280)
Sure, or it's 10% of F500 companies. Which would be about 800 if a similar percentage of listed companies were TX based and moved to the new exchange.

And if Tesla is a trendsetter, TX might be seeing an influx of large companies. At least for legal incorporation.

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by tivert on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @09:52AM (#40584781)
> From the article Texas is home to more Fortune 500 companies than any other state including New York and California.

But the question is: will they change their listing to this new stock market, or stay with the long-recognized ones?

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by bluGill on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:15AM (#40585049)
Probably not - Fortune 500 is probably already on the NYSE and unlikely to move. Will smaller companies list in Texas though?
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by fdasfdasfdjf on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:19AM (#40585103)
The Fortune 500 could still issue new shares on the new Texas exchange.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by chollida1 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:38AM (#40585357)
That's not how things work. Shares can be freely traded on any of these exchanges at any time.

its where you list that we are discussing here.

Listing on an exchange is all about what reporting requirements you are required to make inorder to be a publicly listed company and what share requirement you are required to maintain to list.

ie

- share price above a certain threshold,

- report your financials quarterly, etc.

- often a minimum trading volume

- certain requirements about the viability of the company, ie not bankrupt, etc.

Foreign companies will often dual list in the US to get access to US liquidity as well as list on their own home exchanges.

But once you are listed in the US there is no benefit to list on multiple exchanges as all you do is make your reporting requirements go up. Your shares can be traded on any US exchange once you are listed on any of htem.

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by bluGill on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @01:02PM (#40587462)
What if a company wants a new class of stock - would they always list on the same exchange? I'm not sure what the rules are around this, but I know it is sometimes done.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by quickthrowman on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @11:41AM (#40586280)
‘The Fortune 500’ is not an index fund, it’s a list published by a magazine.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by giantg2 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:04AM (#40584946)
They could potentially dual list.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by rolandog on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:21AM (#40585127)
And at the very least, it'll serve as a good indicator of which companies don't view enshittification as a mistake/phase, but rather a goal/lifestyle.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by giantg2 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:45AM (#40585449)
I don't think dual listing would really indicate that. A fully switch would be a better indicator.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by georgeecollins on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:26AM (#40585183)
It seems close behind California and New York, so maybe it has/ will become true:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/303696/us-fortune-500-co...

I think the economic growth of Texas is great for the US. States trying different models of regulation is a good way to test what works.

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by testfrequency on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:32AM (#40585263)
They don’t.

California has 57

New York and Texas are at 52

Source: https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/06/04/icymi-california-is-now-ho...

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by vitus on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @11:49AM (#40586411)
Notably, the 2024 list was released just yesterday, so I wouldn't fault anyone for not having seen that yet. Texas was in the lead for a couple of years, but honestly it's so close that I don't think it's interesting to assert that "X state has the most big companies according to some magazine's list!". CA, NY, and TX are all huge states with long-standing business investment. That's not changing any time soon.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by testfrequency on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @01:09PM (#40587564)
I get it, but the fact is…California is currently #1.

As an aside, I do find it still impressive given the number of high profile companies that relocated, and the fact that there’s a constant news doom agenda against California.

All this to say, it’s a healthy reminder of just how much California matters to the US and global economy

Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by bongobingo1 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:03AM (#40584928)
"Home" is probably a stretch, don't they mostly just incorporate via a P.O. Box in Delaware? I guess there is Austin too.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by jeffbee on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:08AM (#40584984)
It's Panamanian-flagged ships, but corporations.
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by daemin on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:15AM (#40585054)
This doesn't really matter on which world-wide stock exchange companies end up listing. There are many companies which list on the NASDAQ rather than in their home exchanges, or on a more theme appropriate exchange rather than one closer to their actual area of operations (I'm thinking mineral exploration companies on the ASX).
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by duxup on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @09:55AM (#40584827)
Why would they change their listing?
Re:Texas poised to get own stock exchange – with less red ta... by arcticbull on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:02AM (#40584908)
Ah yes forum shopping.