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Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by SunlitCat on Monday June 03, 2024 @03:48PM (#40566764)
Minecraft was the first game, someone on the "internet" gifted me. I was like "Why do you do that?!" and he was just like, because it's cool to play with you.

Ahhhh! Fond memories. :)

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by mathgradthrow on Monday June 03, 2024 @03:52PM (#40566803)
gosh, thats a beautiful little story.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by SunlitCat on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:42PM (#40567304)
Thank you! It was really an awesome time way back and made me aware that, gifting other people games is a nice thing to do.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by Zambyte on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:37PM (#40567249)
Minecraft was the first game I made long term friends from the internet in. I went on to play other games with my friends from minecraft for years. My first real relationship was with someone I met on Minecraft. I flew across the US to visit her multiple times in high school (working as a dishwasher to buy tickets). 7 years later I bought her and her child plane tickets to visit me (earlier this year).

Also Minecraft got me into programming in Java, which let to my programming career. So yeah... Minecraft has been a pretty big part of my life, even if I mostly stopped playing it in early high school :P

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by SunlitCat on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:43PM (#40567320)
Actually that is an heartwarming story and a great example how games (and gaming) can connect people and how it can inspire careers!

Thank you for sharing!

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by shepherdjerred on Monday June 03, 2024 @06:02PM (#40568108)
Minecraft is also how I got into programming! Hundreds of hours spent writing Java plugins for CraftBukkit/Spigot :)
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by rekttrader on Monday June 03, 2024 @05:41PM (#40567891)
That’s a great story! Kudos good human!
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by confused_boner on Monday June 03, 2024 @05:37PM (#40567843)
I sent $20 via USPS to a friend with a credit card who purchased it on my behalf. Good times.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by SunlitCat on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @12:55AM (#40570822)
Actually that's pretty awesome to have someone trustworthy to do such things!
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by salad-tycoon on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @08:06PM (#40592025)
I had 20 bucks and only 20 bucks. I could buy Minecraft alpha or bitcoin. I chose Minecraft. Whoops.

But still, neat game all around.

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by misterpigs on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:15PM (#40567024)
These servers were a lot of fun. You got to pay taxes _in a game_! But seriously they were a lot of fun.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by lyu07282 on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:15PM (#40567020)
Fuck those pay2win servers, they are exploitative, promote gambling and pray on children.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by espresso39 on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:25PM (#40567146)
MuxCraft did not have any gambling until 2020, where it was already in serious decline like most older german servers

They added gambling as what seemed a last ditch effort to attract new users

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by 12345hn6789 on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:45PM (#40567333)
Yup. Folks like to bring up Roblox (rightfully) with regards to gambling and hosting shady real $money shops for in game items but AFAIK (public) Minecraft servers have been doing this since at least 2012. "Pay $20 for a 'rank' on our server! You get extra goodies!". "This special diamond sword is only $1!".

Really an under reported stat imo. These servers are under the radar.

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by devin on Monday June 03, 2024 @05:07PM (#40567576)
I do agree that it is lame.

However, money sinks like gambling can be seen as a part of the in-game economy and are a useful tool to take money out of circulation.

I don’t necessarily have a problem with judicious use of it, but if the point of the server becomes buying in-game currency to lose it at the poker table, then yeah, that’s exploiting your users.

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by robertlagrant on Monday June 03, 2024 @07:37PM (#40569016)
> and are a useful tool to take money out of circulation

What does this mean? What money is being taken out of circulation?

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by bravetraveler on Monday June 03, 2024 @07:44PM (#40569075)
I assume the money going into their pocket, 10/10 thieves (winners) recommend theft (winning)

That's totally hyperbole. Perhaps they find themselves luckier than average - like most :) People overestimate this fairly easily/often.

It's vague... Counter point: opportunity cost. Nobody can say what will/won't happen, why even try to guess at this.

Most endeavors don't go as poorly as gambling. In my experience at least

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by moehm on Monday June 03, 2024 @07:49PM (#40569106)
If they talk about in-game currency, probably they mean mudflation. It's like inflation, but in games. If you can produce in-game currency out of nothing, the value drops.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by robertlagrant on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @04:05AM (#40571878)
Oh - I see. In-game currency is taken out of circulation.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by devin on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @12:19PM (#40586834)
Yes, this was what I was trying to describe.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by espresso39 on Monday June 03, 2024 @03:26PM (#40566535)
MuxCraft used to be one of the largest EU servers back in 2012-2014

Proof: https://web.archive.org/web/20140829145028/minecraft-serverl...

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by KomoD on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:23PM (#40567125)
Would not go as far to say "one of the largest EU servers", maybe one of the largest German servers
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by espresso39 on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:27PM (#40567169)
Germany does have the biggest EU user base, but you’re right, the language was german
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by hoten on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:20PM (#40567090)
Anyone know what is Blood Bending?
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by jjice on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:23PM (#40567118)
I'm only aware of it in the context of Avatar The Last Airbender. I'd assume this is a gameplay mechanic based on that?

https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Bloodbending

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by H8crilA on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:34PM (#40567231)
BTW, this is the actual oldest server (and it's still up): https://minecraftonline.com/

This is a close contender (it's is also up, and really thriving; it's even on close to the latest version): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2b2t

I can recommend 2b2t if you don't mind the 4chan-like mentality in the chat. Probably the only server where coding is actually a desired, core skill in factions/teams/groups.

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by pests on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:48PM (#40567382)
While yes 2b2t is on a modern version most of its history was spent on 1.12. Only last year did they jump to 1.9 and only in the last few months to 1.20. Not knocking it, just most of the old builds and metas were based on 1.12.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by pests on Monday June 03, 2024 @08:00PM (#40569178)
Yes, meant 1.19.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by zarathustreal on Monday June 03, 2024 @05:44PM (#40567919)
Is 1.12 not more modern than 1.9?
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by youainti on Monday June 03, 2024 @05:52PM (#40568014)
I think they dropped a 1, i.e. they meant to type 1.19
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by unholiness on Monday June 03, 2024 @05:55PM (#40568045)
He means 1.19
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by LoganDark on Monday June 03, 2024 @05:54PM (#40568033)
Do you mean 1.19?
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by axus on Monday June 03, 2024 @05:51PM (#40568005)
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by aidenn0 on Monday June 03, 2024 @07:07PM (#40568748)
I don't think that server is German though? Headline at this moment in time is "Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down..."
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by icepat on Monday June 03, 2024 @06:25PM (#40568348)
I saw this and thought it was MinecraftOnline that shutdown. MCO has a great community, and is pretty much the anti-2b2t. MCO is also German.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by H8crilA on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @11:50AM (#40575841)
They really are the Yin and Yang of Minecraft.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by icepat on Thursday June 06, 2024 @06:32PM (#40603128)
Indeed, MCO has a special place in my heart.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by ct0 on Monday June 03, 2024 @04:47PM (#40567372)
Never forget logging into mau5ville (deadmau5's server) and being blown away by the digital architecture and activity. Great times.
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by codetrotter on Monday June 03, 2024 @05:01PM (#40567504)
https://muxcraft.eu/

Their website with the announcement also links to the following:

> Alle Dateien vom MuxCraft Server.

> Enthält: Maps, Schematics, Server & Plugins, Bilder, Designs, Website.

https://archive.org/details/muxcraft

Not sure if it’s the same, or some extra data, compared to what they put on the linked GitHub

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by kleiba on Monday June 03, 2024 @05:58PM (#40568069)
Btw, how is Levers and Chests coming along?
Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by doublerabbit on Monday June 03, 2024 @07:43PM (#40569065)
Minecraft was the first game to get me fired.

Don't play it on a banks computer. Nor visit WikiLeaks for that matter on a banks computer.

Nor changed printer status messages via Telnet to "Out Of Ink - Please insert more blood"

Or even make acknowledgment that was you.

I was 17, how I miss that age and getting away with things.

Re:Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open... by josephcsible on Monday June 03, 2024 @07:44PM (#40569082)
Is there a license? If not, then it's just source-available, not open-source.