Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by smountjoy on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:12PM
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"Superalignment" is (was?) OpenAI's term, so it might be more accurate to say he is joining Anthropic to work on alignment.
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Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by sp332 on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:21PM
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Looks like superalignment was Jan Leike's term, since the team at OpenAI dissolved immediately without him.
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by eminence32 on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:18PM
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Is there a difference between "superalignment" and "alignment" ?
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by rfw300 on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:21PM
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Yes. “Superalignment” (admittedly a corny term) refers to the specific case of aligning AI systems that are more intelligent than human beings. Alignment is an umbrella term which can also refer to basic work like fine-tuning an LLM to follow instructions.
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by thefaux on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:28PM
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Is this not something of an oxymoron? If there exists an ai that is more intelligent than humans, how could we mere mortals hope to control it? If we hinder it so that it cannot act in ways that harm humans, can we really be said to have created superintelligence?
It seems to me that the only way to achieve superalignment is to not create superintelligence, if that is even within our control.
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by whimsicalism on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:30PM
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Many people share your views, but others believe it is possible.
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by renewiltord on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:35PM
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Not self-evident. Fungus can control ant. Toxoplasma gondii can control human. Who is more intelligent? So if control of more intelligent being is possible, could it be symbiotic to permit? Alpha-proteobacteria sister to ancestor proto-mitochondria and now we live aligned. But those beings lacked conscious agency. We have more than them. Not self-evident we will fail at this.
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by dr_dshiv on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:50PM
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Another example is the alignment between our hindbrain, limbic system and neocortex. Neocortex is smarter but is usually controlled by lower level processes…
Note that misalignment between these systems is very common.
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by afefers on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:23PM
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Huh! All this time I thought the "super" was just for branding/differentiation.
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by cwillu on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:47PM
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Alignment was the original term, but has been largely coopted to mean a vaguely similar looking concept of public safety around the capabilities of current models.
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by zucker42 on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:33PM
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That was definitely part of it.
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by halfjoking on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:59PM
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Then why don't they call politicians "super-politicians"?
Their purpose is to control the population by being lesser beings who feed off corporations and just push their message.
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by exe34 on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:19PM
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i suppose the difference between imaginary and "super"-imaginary isn't very important from a practical point of view.
they worry about alignment for ai, I worry about alignment for the corporations that wield technology, any technology.
Re:Jan Leike joins Anthropic on their superalignment team
by throw5345346 on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:38PM
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Oh yes. One is super.