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Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by postalrat on Monday May 27, 2024 @03:54PM (#40494042)
Land is cheap but building a house is expensive. If you want more supply then you are going to need to make building more economical.
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by mym1990 on Monday May 27, 2024 @04:06PM (#40494153)
Land is definitely not cheap in places people actually want to live, and land is the thing that is appreciating over time, not the structure.
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by tsss on Monday May 27, 2024 @04:19PM (#40494268)
The building does appreciate sometimes, at least here in Germany because the increasing absurdity of bureaucracy and regulations make the same class of house more and more expensive to build. At the same time, "lower classes" of houses become outright illegal to erect, leaving only the luxury segment for new buildings. Old buildings have grandfather privilege and thus become more expensive than an equivalent new build would be, simply because you aren't allowed to build new.
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by mym1990 on Monday May 27, 2024 @11:34PM (#40497087)
Right, I'd figured there are exceptions to my assessment, and my view is only from the US. Many homes in the US are are seemingly being built with lower quality/faster timelines, and I personally would not want to see what they look like in 30 years...

There is also the consideration that "lifestyle" appreciation can also happen. If an area gets really built up, more things are happening in the neighborhood that make it a more appealing place to live in, the allure of that lifestyle will push people to buy homes that are probably not worth much in another location.

Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by IneffablePigeon on Monday May 27, 2024 @04:29PM (#40494363)
My (UK) house is worth 3x the total rebuild value my mortgage provider wanted me to insure it for. This implies the land it’s built on (and the planning permission to build the house) is worth twice what the structure is worth.
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by photonthug on Monday May 27, 2024 @04:14PM (#40494219)
Unfortunately things like prefab buildings that could cut costs in half do tend to be illegal
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by NewJazz on Monday May 27, 2024 @04:15PM (#40494231)
This is not even close to true.

Land can be very expensive. Especially when it has infrastructure built out to it already.

Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by onion2k on Monday May 27, 2024 @04:17PM (#40494253)
Land is not cheap in the UK.
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by secondcoming on Monday May 27, 2024 @05:02PM (#40494673)
And unless your property is Freehold, you don't own the land at all.
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by dukeyukey on Monday May 27, 2024 @07:10PM (#40495667)
To be fair, most properties in the UK are freehold.
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by secondcoming on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @11:12AM (#40501472)
Not in Scotland
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by dukeyukey on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @02:39PM (#40503992)
_Especially_ in Scotland, since Scotland doesn't have leasehold the way England and Wales do.
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by djbusby on Monday May 27, 2024 @05:10PM (#40494747)
In King County WA the assessment would have two line items.

    Land: 500,000
    Improvement: 300,000

They tax that at $800,000
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by postalrat on Monday May 27, 2024 @06:04PM (#40495193)
I seen plenty of land around that area for $150k or less. No doubt some land is worth $500k plenty is not anywhere near that.
Re:Priced out of home ownership – 'It makes me want to throw... by sgregnt on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @12:34AM (#40508509)
In desired areas land is about 80% of the house price, that's why if you add zoning you obly get exyremely expansive single family houses where you could get cheat multi family high rises