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Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by cyanydeez on Wednesday May 22, 2024 @07:48PM (#40448396)
Really seems like their play is to use their business suite to sell huge privacy invasive tools under the guise of computing improvements.

This iteration of Microsoft products gonna really go for the throat.

Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by PDSCodes on Wednesday May 22, 2024 @07:52PM (#40448447)
It feels desperate, rushed and ill thought through.

They seem desperate to be ahead and they will frighten people away from the usefulness of ai.

Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by jimt1234 on Wednesday May 22, 2024 @08:08PM (#40448617)
I think this describes almost all AI products being promoted these days. They all seem rushed-to-market, in an attempt to get a boost to the company's stock price: "They're an AI company! BUY!"
Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by PDSCodes on Wednesday May 22, 2024 @08:13PM (#40448670)
Smells like the late 90s dot com bubble!

Everyone on the bandwagon.

Put out a landing page with AI on it and ride the hype train.

MS are pouring a lot into this - can they sustain it!

Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by Havoc on Wednesday May 22, 2024 @08:00PM (#40448539)
There is a giant hole in their pitch. Recall is supposed to be local only right? Thats what makes the record everything ok…

Now imagine you actively use it and it has all your memory and history. And then your SSD dies.

They’re going to have to push this to cloud for backup - the entire thing. But they can’t say that part out loud at this stage because people will freak

Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by eightysixfour on Wednesday May 22, 2024 @08:10PM (#40448646)
Or you could just lose that history, which is basically a bonus for the experience, not a necessity. The competitor to this, rewind.ai lets you set your retention policy and deletes on a rolling basis anyways.
Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by Havoc on Wednesday May 22, 2024 @08:25PM (#40448813)
If you want this to be the new computer use paradigm then it has to be durable and long term.

Same as any other info storage like Evernote and friends. Doesn’t really work if it’s flakey or impermanent

Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by eightysixfour on Thursday May 23, 2024 @01:41AM (#40450871)
The value of the data shrinks dramatically over time for this kind of data, I have been using rewind for around a year now and don’t think I have ever liked back past three months.
Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by Havoc on Thursday May 23, 2024 @03:40AM (#40451696)
You’re probably right about declining value over time.

Is that for personal use thoug? At work I’m routinely going through year+ old mails.

Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by eightysixfour on Thursday May 23, 2024 @08:09PM (#40461452)
Yes, but that isn’t what I really use it for. An example recent use was to pull up a recording of a conversation I had on zoom to see a detail on one of the slides I couldn’t remember. Prior to that it was searching for a specific set of words I knew I had seen in a proprietary dataset (think Ipsos/Gartner) that their own search wasn’t finding.

I generally don’t need/recall those kinds of details after a certain time and will accept those losses.

Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by creatonez on Wednesday May 22, 2024 @08:56PM (#40449061)
> They’re going to have to push this to cloud for backup - the entire thing. But they can’t say that part out loud at this stage because people will freak

This doesn't mean unencrypted, though. Will have to wait and see how much it exposes and how the key management works.

I'm not optimistic but it does seem rather unlikely they would botch the privacy of a constantly screenshotting daemon, it would be a little on-the-nose even with MS's horrendous privacy record.

Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by Havoc on Thursday May 23, 2024 @05:51AM (#40452649)
It’s less a technical problem and more principles and optics.

Can’t really argue a strong local only stance and do cloud. Encryption sure but that takes us into “it’s not local but trust us it’s all good” territory…from a company known to comply with all sorts of gov info requests.

Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by lostmsu on Thursday May 23, 2024 @04:35PM (#40459602)
Re:Microsoft Launches CoPilot+ for PCs, Team CoPilot, and More by dang on Thursday May 23, 2024 @04:47PM (#40459716)