I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with Google's AI search

Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by aiauthoritydev on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:42PM (#40381097)

A small improvement done at Google's scale as pretty low end engineer would have greater impact on world than any "elsewhere".

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by legulere on Thursday May 16, 2024 @02:07PM (#40381386)

I think you're greatly underestimating the low hanging fruits in big important non-tech organisations like governments.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by throwup238 on Thursday May 16, 2024 @02:47PM (#40381771)

My lumberyard of choice still uses DOS machines for their computers and POS. I'm not saying you'll change the world by revolutionizing lumberyard inventory management software but I wanted to illustrate just how low the low hanging fruit are.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by aiauthoritydev on Thursday May 16, 2024 @03:34PM (#40382229)

If it works what is wrong with DOS ?

But even if you redo the whole thing and it is efficient, it is still less than some minor performance improvement in Chrome can achieve for the world.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by throwup238 on Thursday May 16, 2024 @03:42PM (#40382317)

Spare parts, for one. BART for example is dependent on old computer parts from Ebay to keep the Bay Area's main mass transit system running: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32884814

Speaking as a customer, it's slow, annoying, and makes the shopping experience there miserable. If you innovate in that software space, you might be able to make a significant impact on the trade of certified exotic wood and maybe even save a few species of tree.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by ddalex on Friday May 17, 2024 @01:19AM (#40386621)

IF somebody could make 6-figure comp writing lumberyard inventory management systems, they would

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by metadat on Friday May 17, 2024 @11:25PM (#40396264)

Make a SasS, the potential is there.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by nyarlathotep_ on Thursday May 16, 2024 @03:47PM (#40382368)

Yes but non-tech organizations are often a disaster for getting even simple things done--crap like filing tickets to get something simple approved like provisioning something via a Cloud provider paired with loads of bureaucracy and (often) lower skilled employees are not an ideal arrangement for picking said fruit.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by phreeza on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:38PM (#40381061)

Many people actually deliver things that are objectively improvements to user experience, such as latency improvements?

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by internet101010 on Thursday May 16, 2024 @02:17PM (#40381476)

Doesn't matter if the search results are shit, which they are. Not as bad as YouTube's search though, as the breakdown is 3 relevant results -> 12 irrelevant "people also watched" results -> then back to normal results. And that's assuming you have an extension installed to filter out everything related to Shorts.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by toomuchtodo on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:39PM (#40381073)

Serving ads and poor quality search results faster is an objective improvement? Agree to disagree.

If the only thing gen AI delivers is killing Google’s search standing, it’ll have served a useful purpose.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by phreeza on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:42PM (#40381103)

Is it a deterioration? I don't disagree that results are getting worse, but I'd still say all else being equal faster results are better than slower results.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by toomuchtodo on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:44PM (#40381126)

https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-resea...

https://downloads.webis.de/publications/papers/bevendorff_20...

https://fortune.com/2024/01/18/why-is-google-search-so-bad-s... | https://archive.is/CLO4S

https://searchengineland.com/google-to-cut-thousands-of-sear...

(I use Kagi, DDG, and OpenAI for search primarily, all paid for, so my first hand experience with Google Search is limited, intentionally; are faster poor results better than slightly slower good results? I can spare a few seconds for better, this is not high frequency trading)

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by Alupis on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:57PM (#40381281)

> and OpenAI for search primarily

How is this in practice? Normal GPT is entirely untrustworthy for a lot of it's information. How can you trust it's "search" results/summaries?

I've said it before, but it's like watching the news about a topic you know a lot about and realizing how wrong they are... yet you continue to believe the same people regarding subjects you know nothing about. GPT feeds you BS, and you have to be knowledgeable about the subject to detect it... yet we blindly trust it's output on subjects we know little about. That's... dangerous.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by toomuchtodo on Thursday May 16, 2024 @02:00PM (#40381302)

I don't rely on GPT output as canonical, I only use it to help surface big rocks I can refine with other engines and find primary sources. It's fancy autocomplete after all, but PageRank was just weighting links in a link web as well.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by Alupis on Thursday May 16, 2024 @02:04PM (#40381356)

I've attempted to use it as a guided learning mechanism - and had some great success, but also it's sent me down some very deep, dark rabbit holes that turned out to be entirely wrong.

It frustrates me to no end... and then I go back for more punishment naively believing this time it'll actually be right.

With that said, the newer voice interactive version (using the app), I've found to be pretty slick for debating yourself on technical merits of designs/architecture, etc.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by holonsphere on Thursday May 16, 2024 @02:24PM (#40381550)

Keep in mind the whole "easy to read" over any network thing openai had going on early on. Theyve only gotten better at hiding their datamining. Theyre more interested in your mind than your wallet. dont reinforce other peoples' algorithm if they wont be straight up regarding what theyre really doing with it.

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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by toomuchtodo on Thursday May 16, 2024 @03:08PM (#40381951)

I pay for enterprise, but I’m also fine with them consuming what I provide to improve, for now.

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