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Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by phreeza on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:42PM (#40381103)
Is it a deterioration? I don't disagree that results are getting worse, but I'd still say all else being equal faster results are better than slower results.
Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by toomuchtodo on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:44PM (#40381126)
https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-resea...

https://downloads.webis.de/publications/papers/bevendorff_20...

https://fortune.com/2024/01/18/why-is-google-search-so-bad-s... | https://archive.is/CLO4S

https://searchengineland.com/google-to-cut-thousands-of-sear...

(I use Kagi, DDG, and OpenAI for search primarily, all paid for, so my first hand experience with Google Search is limited, intentionally; are faster poor results better than slightly slower good results? I can spare a few seconds for better, this is not high frequency trading)

Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by Alupis on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:57PM (#40381281)
> and OpenAI for search primarily

How is this in practice? Normal GPT is entirely untrustworthy for a lot of it's information. How can you trust it's "search" results/summaries?

I've said it before, but it's like watching the news about a topic you know a lot about and realizing how wrong they are... yet you continue to believe the same people regarding subjects you know nothing about. GPT feeds you BS, and you have to be knowledgeable about the subject to detect it... yet we blindly trust it's output on subjects we know little about. That's... dangerous.

Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by toomuchtodo on Thursday May 16, 2024 @02:00PM (#40381302)
I don't rely on GPT output as canonical, I only use it to help surface big rocks I can refine with other engines and find primary sources. It's fancy autocomplete after all, but PageRank was just weighting links in a link web as well.
Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by Alupis on Thursday May 16, 2024 @02:04PM (#40381356)
I've attempted to use it as a guided learning mechanism - and had some great success, but also it's sent me down some very deep, dark rabbit holes that turned out to be entirely wrong.

It frustrates me to no end... and then I go back for more punishment naively believing this time it'll actually be right.

With that said, the newer voice interactive version (using the app), I've found to be pretty slick for debating yourself on technical merits of designs/architecture, etc.

Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by holonsphere on Thursday May 16, 2024 @02:24PM (#40381550)
Keep in mind the whole "easy to read" over any network thing openai had going on early on. Theyve only gotten better at hiding their datamining. Theyre more interested in your mind than your wallet. dont reinforce other peoples' algorithm if they wont be straight up regarding what theyre really doing with it.
Re:I don't want to spend my one precious life dealing with G... by toomuchtodo on Thursday May 16, 2024 @03:08PM (#40381951)
I pay for enterprise, but I’m also fine with them consuming what I provide to improve, for now.