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Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by karaterobot on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @09:43AM (#40366869)
> “It is a rare behavior that has only been detected in this part of the world,” said Alfredo López, an orca researcher at the Atlantic Orca Working Group (GTOA), in an interview with Scientific American last year.

They also recently rammed into a yacht near Scotland, and in British Columbia an Orca collided a yacht into another yacht by dragging the anchor chain.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/orca-rams-into-yac...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLMvUOq7Bms

I don't know how rare it is either, but it's not unprecedented. There are lots of old sailor stories about aggressive whales.

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by anticorporate on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @09:39AM (#40366804)
What I saw in other reports that I did not see highlighted in this article is that the whales aren't just deciding to sink yachts, but appear to be teaching each other.

https://www.livescience.com/animals/orcas/orcas-have-sunk-3-...

Personally, I have my fingers crossed that they can learn to target yachts specifically.

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by HFguy on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @10:01AM (#40367079)
"I have my fingers crossed that they can learn to target yachts specifically."

"Yachts" here look like moderately sized sail boats. Doesn't look like this is rich people's super yachts if that is what you are getting at.

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by zardo on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @12:10PM (#40368852)
The definition of yacht is loosely a boat for personal use that is suitable for multiple day trips.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by maxerickson on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @10:04AM (#40367109)
Right, the response will obviously be to do nothing/protect the whales.

(I'm being sarcastic, they'll get slaughtered)

Big incentive to learn the language I guess, so that someone can explain how one sided the situation actually is.

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by fuzzfactor on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @11:34AM (#40368303)
It probably all started with somebody in a yacht flushing their toilet in that part of the sea.

I can imagine somebody is sharpening up their harpoons somewhere.

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by saltcured on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @01:01PM (#40369530)
I'm remembering that orca attack was one of the seemingly fanciful explanations floated to explain the disappearance of Jim Gray and his boat near San Francisco years ago.

Would be almost ironic if this were true. (An eminent CS pioneer falling prey to a whale R&D project decades before they took it mainstream.)

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by victorbjorklund on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @03:41PM (#40371431)
You get that you can buy a sailboat "yacht" in europe for 1000 usd right? Or even get one for free. Plenty of people sailing are not rich.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by evolve2k on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @11:05AM (#40367913)
There was a YouTube video showing tracked wales trying to cross an ocean. It also visualised ships crossing the same ocean. There was so much traffic that the wales kept having to turn back and turn back. In the end being unable to find a gap in the “traffic” to be able to make the journey across.

I feel this may partly explain the motivation to take a few ships out that fall within do-able for them.

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by drcongo on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @11:27AM (#40368222)
Can they not go under the traffic?
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by maxbond on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @11:55AM (#40368610)
If I recall correctly, the issue is noise, not the physical footprint of the boat.

Here's the visualization: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qNO6JaL9PY

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by drcongo on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @12:44PM (#40369282)
Ahhh of course, thanks. What a dolt I am.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by maxbond on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @12:47PM (#40369332)
Oh I didn't mean that, it don't think it's at all obvious. I thought your question was reasonable.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by drcongo on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @02:50PM (#40370850)
I was genuinely thanking you! As soon as I read your answer I thought "oh, that's incredibly obvious, I should think more before posting". Hopefully it all helped someone else anyway.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by krackers on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @03:18PM (#40371158)
I still don't understand - what is it about the noise that prevents the whales from crossing it? Do they confuse the noise for an active predator, or does the noise prevent them from navigating properly with their echolocation?
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by drcongo on Thursday May 16, 2024 @04:40AM (#40376348)
I'd guess it's interfering with their communication and internal mapping in myriad ways.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by RACEWAR on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @11:19AM (#40368114)
As susceptible this news story is to humorous takes, I worry that this may soon affect honest seamen and others aboard vessels 50 feet long and below. Or is it happening already but it’s not being mentioned because the yacht stories are juicier? This is troubling.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by EricE on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @11:01AM (#40367858)
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by kordlessagain on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @09:37AM (#40366781)
We could use AI to ask a captive orca what they think about this matter.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by onemoresoop on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @10:24AM (#40367371)
Do you think one can use AI to help humans build some common sense? You seem to need it badly.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by lambaro on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @12:28PM (#40369063)
What in the world are you talking about?
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by astrodust on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @10:06AM (#40367137)
That's like asking someone from an unconnected tribe why kids are doing stupid stuff on TikTok.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by runsfromfire on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @01:56PM (#40370232)
“So long and thanks for all the yachts”
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by dvfjsdhgfv on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @10:38AM (#40367541)
My first thought was that the derogatory name for Russian invaders has somehow become mainstream...
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by azubinski on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @12:39PM (#40369216)
Orcas are not orcs, orcas have a biological nature.

It's just that sometimes orcas don't like yachts :(

This is explainable and understandable at least.

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by hulitu on Friday May 17, 2024 @06:50AM (#40388476)
> My first thought

keep up the good work. /s

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by bobosha on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @09:50AM (#40366944)
shocking. wild behavior seen in the wild.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by matrix12 on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @03:58PM (#40371629)
There is a reason they are named Orcinus Orca...
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by matrix12 on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @04:10PM (#40371773)
Hard to believe not that long ago that they use to help us hunt whales. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Tom_(orca)
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by hi-v-rocknroll on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @06:17PM (#40373080)
People who take a yacht in the middle of the unforgiving ocean without a ranged weapon to dissuade pirates or rogue sea life aren't just stupid but a liability since they waste taxpayers' money when they have to be rescued because they chose to be unprepared.
Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by victorbjorklund on Thursday May 16, 2024 @04:33AM (#40376305)
You get that strait of gibraltar is so small you can see the other side right? So hardly middle of the ocean to sail your boat when you can see land on both sides with your eyes.

How would you prepare against orcas?

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by hi-v-rocknroll on Thursday May 16, 2024 @05:42PM (#40383604)
> You get that strait of gibraltar [sic] is so small you can see the other side right? So hardly middle of the ocean to sail your boat when you can see land on both sides with your eyes.

Not sure what this was supposed to say, but it appears to be a red herring.

Proactively: Design and build yachts that are more robust to blunt impact.

Situationally: Hunting rifle or speargun.

Re:Orcas Just Sank Another Yacht by barfbagginus on Thursday May 16, 2024 @10:29AM (#40378926)
Extra points if we eventually find out that someone is communicating with the whales, putting them up to it with promises of fish : )