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Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by jamesmontalvo3 on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @03:15PM (#40290267)
Maybe true for a lot of the HN population, but my teenagers are mortified by the idea of me giving them android phones because then they would be the pariahs turning group messages from blue to green.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by adamc on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @05:08PM (#40291507)
Snobbery is an expensive pastime.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by simonh on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @04:28PM (#40291067)
I’m in Europe and everyone uses WhatsApp, and while Android does gave higher share over here, iPhone still dominate the younger demographics. I’m not denying blue/green is a factor in the US but it’s not even a thing here. It’s nowhere near the only it even a dominant reason iPhones are successful with young people.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by WheatMillington on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @03:36PM (#40290534)
This is a sad state of affairs.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by adamomada on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @03:55PM (#40290765)
Interesting that some people would take that as an Apple problem and others would take it as a Google problem

Who’s at fault for not having built-in messaging that works with rich text, photos, videos, etc?

Google has abandoned more messaging products than I can remember while Apple focused on literally the main function of a phone in the 21st century. And they get shit for it

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by pseudalopex on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @08:29PM (#40293094)
Most of the world doesn't care about built in. Apple decided against iMessage on Android for lock in. Android had RCS in 2019.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by int_19h on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @02:01AM (#40294802)
Apple get shit for it because they made it a proprietary protocol for which clients are not available on anything except their own hardware. The whole point of messaging is that it should work with all my contacts, not just those who drank the Apple-flavored Kool-Aid.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by paulmd on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @10:56AM (#40298786)
Google’s protocol is proprietary too - their encryption extension makes it inaccessible for anyone else and google will not partner or license (companies have tried).

RCS as currently implemented is iMessage but with a coat of google paint. There is no there there.

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by int_19h on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @07:19PM (#40303704)
Google should get plenty of shit too for closing down GTalk in the first place. It's not an either-or. Big tech in general hates open protocols and interoperability for consumer stuff; Apple is just the most egregious offender there.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by lolinder on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @06:18PM (#40292210)
And just to elaborate on this: it's not just snobbery about the color of the texts, for people who rely on iMessage as their primary communication platform it really is a severely degraded experience texting with someone who uses Android. We Android users have long since adapted to it by just avoiding SMS/MMS in favor of other platforms, but iPhone users are accustomed to just being able to send a video in iMessage and have it be decent quality when viewed.

Source: I'm an Android user with a lot of iPhones on my in-laws side.

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by bigstrat2003 on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @01:06AM (#40294511)
No, it really is just snobbery.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by Dylan16807 on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @02:14AM (#40294873)
Be aware that iPhones degrade MMS more than necessary and the only reason seems to be to punish Android use.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by veunes on Friday May 10, 2024 @04:24PM (#40323437)
The social implications of using Android phones...