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Re:The book Kubrick tried to kill by voltaireodactyl on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @04:01AM (#40283378)
There are many people who believe that something outside themselves is more important than their own personal happiness or even basic sustenance/stability. Whether that’s something to be admired, damned, or merely observed — it would seem Vitali made choices for reasons worth it to him, personally.
Re:The book Kubrick tried to kill by crazydoggers on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:18AM (#40286743)
Lots of people make bad choices for themselves and others due to psychological control, manipulation, and/or abuse, such as people who willingly join cults.

I’m not saying that is what happened to Vitali, but I think it’s the open question being alluded to.

It is important to be aware and concerned about cultures or industries that foster cult like personality leaders.

Re:The book Kubrick tried to kill by slibhb on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @12:00PM (#40287393)
Exactly right. But people today are extremely resistant to this fact.

It's very clear that many, many people would give up nearly anything -- including years of their lives -- to work with someone as talented as Kubrick. Is that crazy? I wouldn't do it, but others would.

Re:The book Kubrick tried to kill by pjerem on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @04:32AM (#40295666)
This is not the issue. The issue is that some people (like, probably Kubrick) will abuse this.

There is nothing wrong in loyalty. What is wrong is unilateral loyalty.

Re:The book Kubrick tried to kill by voltaireodactyl on Thursday May 09, 2024 @03:26AM (#40306058)
I hope this doesn’t come off as snide, but is there a positive trait that abusive people won’t abuse for their own benefit?

In my view, if there is one I’ve yet to encounter it.

Which would suggest it’s largely the responsibility of each individual to decide what is important to themselves, and how much of themselves they’re prepared to sacrifice in pursuit of said thing.

For some, perhaps works of art that hold meaning for millions of people over many, many years would qualify. For others, it’s a highly paid dev job. I suspect the difference between the two (and all others) “exists” more in the eye of the beholder than folks on any side of the equation would care to accept.

You see it as unilateral loyalty. Perhaps he saw it as something different, or at least lived his life with both eyes open to his own experience. The only thing we can both say for sure is that we will never know for certain.

Re:The book Kubrick tried to kill by kjs3 on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @05:48PM (#40291926)
He had a family. While clearly he thought it was worth it personally, he wasn't making choices just for himself.
Re:The book Kubrick tried to kill by crossroadsguy on Thursday May 09, 2024 @02:33AM (#40305824)
That is true. This is the belief on which this entire, perpetual, scam of "die working for this startup for peanuts" for the great purpose of "changing the world" has been running. Every time a founder finds such sheep, mostly fresh ones but some old ones too once in a while.

Sadly all that almost looks like "grateful to be abused".