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Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by rTX5CMRXIfFG on Thursday May 02, 2024 @11:15PM (#40243673)
That sounds like the sort of stuff you’d remember because it validates what you already want to believe
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by nanidin on Thursday May 02, 2024 @11:55PM (#40243866)
I remember when going through scuba diving certification, the instructor mentioned that smokers generally get more time out of a tank because their lungs absorb oxygen more efficiently or something like that. And she smoked a lot.
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by nradov on Friday May 03, 2024 @08:29AM (#40246918)
There is no advantage to smoking as a diver. Gas consumption rate in scuba diving has nothing to do with lung absorption capacity (unless you have some kind of serious medical condition). We're usually not exerting at anywhere near VO2 Max. The urge to breathe faster is driven mainly by stress and CO2 levels. New divers are often nervous and flailing around due to having poor trim and buoyancy control. Experienced instructors don't have that problem regardless of smoking status.
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by darth_avocado on Thursday May 02, 2024 @11:24PM (#40243722)
Smoking does reduce appetite and therefore can help in weight loss/getting in shape. (I don’t smoke)
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by EasyMark on Friday May 03, 2024 @12:18AM (#40243988)
I have definitely seen more than a few smokers who quit gain weight, no idea if it's picking up a new addiction or if the smoking subdued their hunger pangs, or some combination thereof.
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by TylerE on Friday May 03, 2024 @12:22AM (#40244015)
Nicotine is absolutely scientifically known to be an appetite suppressant.
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by thefz on Friday May 03, 2024 @04:28PM (#40252014)
Getting rid of all the tar and chemicals takes a significant daily toll on the body, which has a definite caloric cost.
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by nradov on Thursday May 02, 2024 @11:25PM (#40243727)
That sounds like the sort of stuff that is completely correct. Low fitness is significantly more risky than smoking. (I am not suggesting that anyone start or continue smoking.)

https://peterattiamd.com/all-things-vo2-max/

Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by llm_trw on Thursday May 02, 2024 @11:32PM (#40243762)
It's pretty funny seeing people today seethe about the obvious (being unfit is terrible for you) the same way people in the 1970s were seething about the obvious (smoking is bad for you).

There is a reason why life expectancy was dropping in the US years before covid hit.

Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by shermantanktop on Friday May 03, 2024 @12:05AM (#40243922)
What obvious-to-others things are you surprised by?
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by throwaway2037 on Friday May 03, 2024 @01:33AM (#40244404)
I asked my parents about the "when was smoking viewed as bad for you" bit. They said late 1980s to early 1990s. They said no one thought it was bad for you in the 1970s -- maybe a stinky habit, that is it.
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by mikestew on Friday May 03, 2024 @01:56AM (#40244552)
I grew up in the 70s, and that’s hilariously wrong. Cigarettes had warning labels in the 60s, and cigarettes were called “coffin nails” long before that.
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by yakshaving_jgt on Friday May 03, 2024 @02:21AM (#40244710)
There’s a line in a film from 1983 called The Outsiders which is like “give me one of those cancer sticks”, so I think smoking was understood to be harmful earlier than that.
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by unmole on Friday May 03, 2024 @12:18AM (#40243989)
Nicotine suppresses appetite and is also a potent nootropic. Consuming nicotine in losenge or gum form doesn't have any of the ill effects of smoking or vaping. It's also virtually impossible for a nicotine naive person to become addicted through losenges.
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by wisty on Friday May 03, 2024 @12:31AM (#40244053)
It's still addictive and likely to be horrible for your heart (smoke causes cancer, but nicotine even in low doses causes what looks like heart issues, though unlike cancer these might be reversible).
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by Scoundreller on Friday May 03, 2024 @12:41AM (#40244107)
always wondered what the effects on the gums would be since the saliva concentration would be higher with gums/lozenges and it’s primarily surface absorption vs. airborne nicotine.
Re:Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbi... by lovecg on Friday May 03, 2024 @01:25AM (#40244354)
Absolutely true, I found it amusing because I came to strongly believe over the years that lack of physical activity is one of the worst things one can do for one’s overall wellbeing. We evolved to be physically active, sitting around all day can be compared to being malnourished or not getting enough sunlight or social contact, etc.