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Re:No-cost desktop software development is dead on Windows 8 by marshray on Thursday May 24, 2012 @04:51PM (#4020482)
How do you think these professional Windows developers got into it before they turned pro? Hint: most of them didn't learn it in college.
Re:No-cost desktop software development is dead on Windows 8 by cobrausn on Thursday May 24, 2012 @04:55PM (#4020502)
Now they get into it before turning pro by writing Metro apps. Which is what MS wants, right? More metro apps?
Re:No-cost desktop software development is dead on Windows 8 by marshray on Thursday May 24, 2012 @05:04PM (#4020551)
No, more often than not they'll grow up writing Linux, iOS, Mac, and Android tablet apps. I've never actually even seen a WP7 device or a Metro app. Even shrinkwrapped apps coded entirely in dotnet are relatively rare. Even once Windows 8 starts shipping it will many years before Windows developers can ignore the billion-or-so computers still running Windows 7, Server 2k8, and below.

Compatibility with the native Win32 app ecosystem is the primary source of Windows' monopoly on desktop computing. Microsoft products rarely succeed outside of that (like any other company). For them to actively try to kill that off is truly insane IMHO.

Re:No-cost desktop software development is dead on Windows 8 by mattmanser on Thursday May 24, 2012 @05:03PM (#4020550)
Downloaded VB6 for free from Kazaa?

Not me of course...

I actually remember trying to decide between eclipse and VB6. What whim made me end up choosing the latter now completely escapes me. I think it was because it didn't have those weird {} braces. Ah, C#, the irony.

Re:No-cost desktop software development is dead on Windows 8 by marshray on Thursday May 24, 2012 @05:24PM (#4020648)
Why any platform vendor would charge money for even the most powerful possible development tools is completely beyond me. All I can figure is that it makes sense to non-hackers who aren't competent to run a technology company.
Re:No-cost desktop software development is dead on Windows 8 by flomo on Thursday May 24, 2012 @07:39PM (#4021163)
Note you could buy a copy of VB for about $100. Which wasn't a bad deal considering it came with a thousand pages of manuals & tutorials.
Re:No-cost desktop software development is dead on Windows 8 by mattmanser on Friday May 25, 2012 @09:36AM (#4023376)
At the time I was a hobbyist straight out of uni where £100 was rather a lot of money (yeah, they always convert dollars to pounds over here, greedy buggers). And I didn't need a manual as I picked up a 'learn VB6 in 30 days book'. Classic.

The trouble with all these 'cheap cause you use it all the time' tools is that to start with you don't want to use them all the time. So they're relatively very expensive.

For example I was just re-learning programming to prove a point to my boss that the internal IT program sucked.

Re:No-cost desktop software development is dead on Windows 8 by tar on Thursday May 24, 2012 @07:38PM (#4021160)
Students can always use https://www.dreamspark.com/ .