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Tedious and replying to the wrong post?

Nah, the argument is worthless because apparently HN hasn't built anything more complicated than a contact form, therefore telling claude to use HTMX is always the answer.

I'm just reflecting what I've seen in the field. Webapps evolve over time and sometimes that has meant just ladling on more kludgy javascript event handling. If there is a homegrown state manager, that's usually better than the alternative. (although the frameworks are mostly just fine)

> If you roll your own - and you will

That's the best case. Usually it was just thousands of lines of jquery spaghetti.

Youtube was full of pirate music videos. If Google (or some other heavyweight) didn't buy them, they probably would have been sued out of existence like Napster and etc.

There was some discussion about the Finder icon in a previous thread a while back. It's a riff on the original 'Happy Mac' power-on-self-test icon. My take is it's based on the reflection of the user's face against the monitor, reflecting enjoyable human-computer interactions. Also you get a smilely face on your screen.

This icon goes back to the Mac Clone era when they wanted separate branding for System 7.5 etc. Kinda funny it survived Jobs and is still around.

Also, IMO there's a lot of undue nostalgia for Snow Leopard. But that 3D Dock was cool. (It didn't do that when you put your dock where it belongs, on the right side.)

> server based (which it should have been in the first place)

Server-based photoshop clone sounds more like VNC/RDP, for this sort of thing client processing is a better UX.

IIRC they did have streets, but people were allowed to camp 'off the grid'.

Because you could get pirated games from the other kids at school. Or at least that seemed like the most popular reason.

Yeah, good point about local containers being the future. And maybe the local LLM just auto fixes your COM registry or whatever.

Just remember the classic fails such as Java, Flash, Silverlight, etc. Web always had the better UI for 95% of usecases, and it gets better by the year. And I expect our machine overlords will continue that.

Aside from the actual politics, DHH is clearly in "fuck you mode". I certainly don't trust that he's going to make decisions in the interest of the broader rails community.

As Zed said, it was fastcgi. But yeah, Rails 1.x got a lot of hype before it had a functional application server.

IMO, something like Basecamp would not be any better as a 'native' app. (probably worse as web tech makes the 'polish' more accessible.)

Not to mention, those VB client/server apps were not as popular with users as HN likes to reminisce. And modern IT departments have often completely banished that stuff.

I gonna be generous and guess this was upvoted as top post for being maybe possibly midwit-correct, hoho you are so right good sire, reddit-fedora-tip herpdy-derp.

But it would not at all be incorrect in American English to say something was "ANSI Standard". Because everyone with more than a few braincells knows the American National Standards Institute is not the same thing as a publishment from that organization.

So please explain to me grammatically how "a standard from the Japan Standard Institute" is like "ATM machine".

Just for the record, I did see him posting on HN, and he seemed highly motivated by $$$ (and pride). He certainly seemed rational, other than the fact he shouldn't have been posting here. Businessman makes bad business decision and doubles-down. Not quite insanity.

> He is surely very evidently mentally ill.

I agree and upvoted your post. But can I just say that it is super-reddit to diagnose someone based on your B- undergrad psych classes.

We should go back to the classics like "he went off his rocker!", or "he's totally unhinged!" or "completely delulu!"

(of course the people who know, know, and they shouldn't tell you.)

> city.state.us

In reality, it wasn't that simple, and a lot of those .us domains looked like line noise.

Government sites are used to distribute public information. They need something they can print on a poster/sign. Not some bogus 'logical' hierarchy.

> This is very common for archive files.

Maybe. But Unix types have always been all-in on tar. They love tar. They continue to use some form of tar to this day.

This was actually a 'cultural issue' back in the day, because Sun Java JAR files were just ZIPs. For good reason. But that wasn't the blessed holy unix archive format.

It's a much older term, eg. Lotus Notes was described as a document database.

Yeah, a huge chunk of IBM's service revenue has always been effectively mainframe services, with wall street accounting spin.

I suspect that almost zero companies adopted mainframes after 1980 or so, so it's ALL legacy market. However, IBM always invests a lot of money in hardware to keep the mainframe perceptually leading edge and "sexy", so they can hold-on to those customers. So you gotta give them credit for that.

(IBM and Microsoft were always 'in the same breath' for years, Microsoft totally out-smarted them, and IBM gave up on that.)

You "often forget", perhaps because it's been a very long time since you've emerged from your bunker.

"Most people" are not even using the web, they are using the app, and getting very targeted ads, based on their behavior. The web is just some place where auxiliary transactions happen.

Text + Ads stopped paying the bills years ago. (long before chatgpt) If you want to read good stuff, it's mostly behind a paywall now. (I like reading stuff, so I pay for it.)

Sounds like you are landing on bottom-tier legacy webpages. And your 'slot machine' ads are how they profiled you, so you are perhaps telling on yourself.

> I want my browser to prevent random extensions from directly reading web page data. The declarative API idea is pretty good.

Agreed. And you would think most paranoid HN types would too.

> It's just that uBlock Origin is so insanely useful, important and trusted

Maybe I'm foggy on the history. But isn't this like Fork #4 or #5 of some previous AdBlock extension?

Seems like the only business model for this type of extension is "selling out" for certain ads. And then the cycle repeats and forum posters tell you to install qBlock Omega or whatever. Maybe Mozilla doesn't want to get in the middle of this?

IIRC, that "w3c validator" was overly strict, and would error on attributes it didn't recognize, even though they were technically 'valid' (and supported in ~every browser). So there were always a couple things like, ehhh, doesn't matter.

> MS-DOS became obsolete only at the launch of Windows 95.

Not even. The genius of Windows 95 was you could still run most of your DOS crap. (Maybe not games, but business apps.) Novell shops for example had a huge pile of DOS drivers and all that just worked underneath 95. DOS only faded away afterwards.

Just as some off-the-top history, MS-DOS was clearly obsolete, but it hung around for like 10 years too long because people couldn't quit it. It was a DOSSY DOS world.

"Protected Mode DOS" went through the IBM/MS gristmill and became OS/2, which was a compromised product in a lot of ways. Then Windows (still mostly a DOS program) got a little traction, and Microsoft had hired Dave Cutler to write a real OS. And David overthrew Goliath and the rest is history. On topic, nobody really wanted protected-mode DOS or CP/M etc.

Just one little thing: East of Buena Vista Park, you have a lake, it is actually the road which goes around the park.

Also, I would love to zoom in more. (pls give me the pixels)

Those sets were marketed as 'Expert Builder' in the USA, so maybe the challenge was part of the point?

It's fine not to be an AI user, just some people there seem to be holding their breath and stomping their feet until it goes away. Which leads to a really repetitive and boring discussion. (I'm not a member there, but they often have better technical links vs HN.)

I don't think that was it. Slashdot would only run stories from their 'content partners' like ZDNet and the Register, so they were always 2 days behind Reddit/HN/Twitter/etc.

(When RMS was 'cancelled', that would have been a huge deal there in the old days, they had one post days later.)

Also Digg wasn't just a graphical redesign, they changed how the site worked. I don't think Slashdot ever did that.

Hey, your response improves my opinion of 'car guys'. Because the analogy is thin and they are looking directly at what is coming out of the 'sausage machine'. And if the result is good, they could sell the machine for profits! (Unlike computer nerds.)

I'm sticking with "hobbyists/dabblers" here, because almost nobody runs Arch in real production scenarios. Its just a fun high-touch thing people can enjoy fucking around with. Nothing wrong with that.

(That is why someone could trivially trojan hundreds of packages and it's NBD. Because "Nobody Cares." Wipe it and start over, funguy.)

To be honest, it took me way too long to figure the Arch etc crowd are hobbyists who enjoy having something which always 'needs maintenance' over the weekend. (And maybe they don't want to admit they are hobbyists because what they are doing seems Very Important.)

Sorta like 'car guys' who recommend some old thing you can wrench on.