The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down

Re:The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down by ndiddy on Saturday April 27, 2024 @04:59PM (#40183495)

Windows still comes with a lot of crap installed by default, the difference is that Microsoft has decided to cut out the OEMs and preload the crap themselves (a clean install of Windows 11 Professional comes with apps for Roblox, TikTok, and Disney Plus among others) so the "install from retail media" trick no longer works unless you also pirate the LTSC or Education editions of Windows.

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Re:The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down by jbr1ckl3y on Saturday April 27, 2024 @05:56PM (#40183954)

It's not simple but it is doable:

1. Format a flash drive with two partitions 2. Burn the Windows installer ISO to the first partition 3. Download all the drivers to the second partition 4. Flash the BIOS with the latest version 5. Ensure you are NOT connected to the Internet and boot flash drive 6. Install Windows, disallow the metrics they let you opt-out 7. Creating a local account works because offline 8. Install drivers avoid add-on software from manufacturer 9. Edit local group policy - enable "Turn off Microsoft Consumer Experience" 9a. Alternatively, edit the Registry, DisableWindowsConsumerFeatures in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CloudContent 10. Connect Internet, check for updates reboot a few times 11. Open Microsoft Store and uninstall any junk apps (stubs) 12. Install whatever other software you desire 13. Configure your update settings so it is less annoying

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Re:The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down by jmholla on Saturday April 27, 2024 @06:37PM (#40184221)

Good guide. But holy hell.

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Re:The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down by Dalewyn on Saturday April 27, 2024 @08:46PM (#40184949)

It's a needlessly esoteric, bad guide. The first three steps can be simplified into "Obtain an installation media.", and the fourth step of updating your BIOS has nothing to do with Windows specifically.

Creating a local account is basic sense (no, not common sense; we aren't common people), and not connecting to the internet during install is recommended but not a hard requirement.

Installing drivers while avoiding their bloatware is, again, basic sense.

Disabling "Microsoft Consumer Experience" does nothing as far as I've experienced (and it shouldn't, the setting is only effective on Windows 11 Enterprise and Education); I never modify that setting myself.

On the other hand, I turn off Automatic Updates (automatic Windows Update) and Microsoft Store's ability to automatically download and update programs via the Group Policies. This is probably what you want if Disney+ keeps bothering you.

This all said, if you're getting pestered by third-party crapware you are probably using Windows 11 Home. Just pay up for a Professional license and save your time and nerves. The cheaper price of Home licenses is offset by third-party crapware.

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Re:The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down by Nullabillity on Saturday April 27, 2024 @11:18PM (#40185731)

> Just pay up for a Professional license and save your time and nerves.

What on earth. This is stockholm syndrome in a nutshell.

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Re:The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down by Gigablah on Saturday April 27, 2024 @11:57PM (#40185859)

Stockholm syndrome is continuing to stay on Windows.

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Re:The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down by ambichook on Sunday April 28, 2024 @07:46PM (#40193028)

especially if you just buy a single pro license and keep it across all your pc upgrades. i havent paid for a new windows license in years and all my copies are legal, dont keep nuking and buying new keys and its not expensive

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Re:The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down by TheLegace on Saturday April 27, 2024 @10:38PM (#40185546)

This is all you need. https://windowsxlite.com/win11/

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Re:The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down by buildbot on Saturday April 27, 2024 @11:01PM (#40185659)

Ah yes, install some random (closed source?) software

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Re:The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down by TheLegace on Saturday April 27, 2024 @11:43PM (#40185813)

I agree its a concern. You could argue everything on XDA forums and any modified Windows should have the same problems.

Personally I use the community of version of Arch i3, not going to check the source on that, but will trust that community might keep an eye on anything nefarious.

Doesn't seem like Linux is completely immune from that either(i.e. XZ Utils).

But the build is amazingly stable and fast, and I will have to take it good faith that they didn't do anything that would harm me.

I can at least track down the author in various communities and seems to be semi-open about their identity. There is a forum thread any concerns I can bring up with the person responsible.

They are also taking donations. I would hope that exposes them to some liability and financial trail if they are found doing something illegal.

https://www.teamos.xyz/threads/windows-x-lite-optimum-11-24h...

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Re:The walls of Apple's garden are tumbling down by Dalewyn on Saturday April 27, 2024 @08:27PM (#40184866)

>(a clean install of Windows 11 Professional comes with apps for Roblox, TikTok, and Disney Plus among others)

It does not, I've been working with fresh installs a lot this year for one reason or another and no fresh Windows 11 Professional installation has had third-party crapware pre-installed. That includes an install I just did a few days ago using an ISO downloaded straight from Microsoft.

Windows 11 Home probably does have them, though.

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