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Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by wk_end on Saturday April 27, 2024 @08:39AM (#40179491)
Let's be clear here: the decriminalization may have made things worse, but the problems were there well before.

That particular McDonald's was ruined mostly because a shelter and various other supports opened up down the block, and kind of turned the area into a mini-Skid Row. Victoria has the best year-round weather in the country: it tends to attract people who are living on the street, and there's big intersections there between that group and the mentally unwell, anti-social, and/or drug addicted.

As for why the mentally unwell, anti-social, and/or drug addicted have become a bigger problem in recent years, well, take your pick: laxer drug laws and/or enforcement, laxer enforcement of laws in general, safe injection sites, housing crisis, cost-of-living crisis, Fent and/or "super meth", cuts to mental health care programs, lack of God, you name it.

Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by NoobSaibot135 on Saturday April 27, 2024 @12:15PM (#40181091)
> ruined mostly because a shelter and various other supports opened up down the block, and kind of turned the area into a mini-Skid Row

That’s why I’m against social housing.

Inner city welfare/government housing aggregates all the homeless into one area where open air drug markets can flourish and other nefarious activities are normalized.

Low income people should instead move to the outskirts of big cities where the rent is more affordable and they are more spread out.

Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by mthoms on Saturday April 27, 2024 @07:07PM (#40184413)
Except their jobs and the services they need are also more spread out. Plus their friends and family and further away. The result: now those people need cars and the benefit of any cost savings is lost. That's not to mention the other problems that come with increased automobile usage.

I'm sorry, it's just not that simple.

Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by nobodyandproud on Sunday April 28, 2024 @10:09AM (#40188710)
That’s the wealthy’s issue: Fund reliable, efficient, and safe mass transport.

I attribute most of todays problems to NIMBYism and highly-selective and classist—as in, target the ones without the funds to fight back—use of eminent domain.

Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by nobodyandproud on Sunday April 28, 2024 @10:06AM (#40188695)
That’s why it’s better to distribute and thin out social housing across every neighborhood, rather than concentrate them all in a handful of places.

It’s easy to police one or two “problem” residents and maybe some positive habits will rub off; likewise, ground the wealthier residents to reality.

Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by waihtis on Saturday April 27, 2024 @08:44AM (#40179518)
There’s plenty of good, validated solutions out there, for instance heres something very effective which would cut drug related problems by over 50%: start enforcing death penalties on drug traffickers.
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by SomeoneFromCA on Saturday April 27, 2024 @11:58AM (#40180933)
How giving them life sentence would be less efficient than a inefficient, error-prone practice of death penalty?
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by waihtis on Saturday April 27, 2024 @01:13PM (#40181645)
Different deterrent
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by SomeoneFromCA on Saturday April 27, 2024 @01:27PM (#40181766)
Reddit-level answer.
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by waihtis on Saturday April 27, 2024 @02:00PM (#40182031)
Was trying to match the level of your reading comprehension
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by joenot443 on Saturday April 27, 2024 @08:56AM (#40179605)
The last application of the death penalty in Canada was in 1962, it's been outlawed even in cases of treason since 1999. I'm very confident that no Canadian politician with any level of influence is looking to change that.
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by waihtis on Saturday April 27, 2024 @09:06AM (#40179669)
In the span of human existence, that is a very short time period
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by saagarjha on Sunday April 28, 2024 @06:57AM (#40187632)
This applies to a lot of the things you take for granted today, like clean running water, electricity, and climate control.
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by waihtis on Sunday April 28, 2024 @11:21AM (#40189262)
Yes. What is your point?
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by saagarjha on Monday April 29, 2024 @05:44AM (#40196365)
We’ve done a lot of things relatively recently that are good and pointing at something as “only a temporary thing that we can revert” is not always a good mindset to have
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by N0b8ez on Saturday April 27, 2024 @10:51AM (#40180390)
El Salvador doesn't have the death penalty but their recent "tough on crime" measures have worked.
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by waihtis on Saturday April 27, 2024 @02:02PM (#40182045)
Yeah, really the intent was not to advocate for death penalty - but rather highlight that there are tools to fight these things, and getting tangled in endless root cause analysis isn’t needed to utilize them.
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by obsoletehippo on Saturday April 27, 2024 @09:25AM (#40179785)
Your solution to people messing up a McDonald's is to have them murdered by the government? Did I get that right?
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by rayiner on Saturday April 27, 2024 @09:28AM (#40179807)
The people in the McDonalds are the victims. The people that would be executed are the dealers getting people addicted for their own profit.
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by zoklet-enjoyer on Saturday April 27, 2024 @01:49PM (#40181967)
Dealers don't get people addicted
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by rayiner on Saturday April 27, 2024 @02:15PM (#40182154)
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by squigz on Saturday April 27, 2024 @02:25PM (#40182234)
Do you honestly believe anything approaching a majority of drug addicts are addicted because dealers are handing out free drugs everywhere?
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by zoklet-enjoyer on Saturday April 27, 2024 @02:46PM (#40182386)
Exactly. If this was a common occurrence it wouldn't be newsworthy
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by Wowfunhappy on Saturday April 27, 2024 @08:57AM (#40179612)
How is this validated?
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by waihtis on Saturday April 27, 2024 @09:04AM (#40179658)
Singapore, a nation with a populace of a bit north of 5 million and extremely strict drug laws, has a few thousand registered drug offenses per year.

Finland, a nation with roughly similar population size but very lax penalties in comparison, has roughly 10x the amount.

Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by zoklet-enjoyer on Saturday April 27, 2024 @01:48PM (#40181960)
There's fucking insane
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by waihtis on Saturday April 27, 2024 @02:04PM (#40182069)
Where?
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by zoklet-enjoyer on Saturday April 27, 2024 @02:47PM (#40182399)
Typo. That's fucking insane. Death penalty for drug trafficking is fucking insane
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by waihtis on Sunday April 28, 2024 @12:58AM (#40186124)
All depends on your world view
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by int_19h on Saturday April 27, 2024 @02:36PM (#40182313)
How many innocent people are you okay with being executed as collateral damage?
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by ornornor on Saturday April 27, 2024 @04:04PM (#40182999)
> lack of God

There has never been one :)

Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by Fatnino on Sunday April 28, 2024 @02:51PM (#40190832)
Thereby confirming the lack of one.