People listen to audio in their cars a lot more than they use navigation.

Have you not used maps via CarPlay?

I think CarPlay is kind of stupid because the ONLY apps that make any sense are audio and maps. Both of which don’t need much variety… Google Maps, plus a handful of audio apps, and the infotainment system is complete.

Hmm waze is hugely popular where I come from, because of all the police speed traps it crowdsources. And I’ve not seen that as part of an official infotainment system like ever.

And to be fair I prefer waze, not just because it makes driving simpler, but the community feeling you get by marking stopped cars or other obstructions on the road for others to pay attention to.

Unless automakers organize and come together to build a common os/ui layer, I don’t see apps like that ever being present in official infotainment systems.

And audio book apps change all the time too - local variants with local libraries, language learning apps etc. There is quite the variety of stuff you could do in a car.

I imagine a lot of companies would like to integrate their apps to cars. Think the police, ambulances, taxis/Uber, etc. Currently they just solve the problem by mounting more devices to the car.

And even if you want to use only audio and maps, then there are still a selection of audio streaming providers and map providers around.

Yes. It's awful.

Plus CarPlay it's pretty unstable and requires cable on some cars.

Offline maps such as Gaia don’t work on Tesla so that is it failing at its job compared to CarPlay

Maybe you can use your phone for when you actually go offline once a year…

try every week or two?

camping hiking etc bring me places without reception.

driving between towns here (BC, canada) often mean long stretches of road without reception.