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Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by paxys on Sunday April 21, 2024 @08:17PM (#40110395)
There are reports that 70% of the sales had to be manually reviewed by the team in India (https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-just-walk-out-actual...), so no, they weren't just training algorithms.
Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by jedberg on Sunday April 21, 2024 @08:20PM (#40110408)
That article in particular was the one that was debunked. It was based on a false rumor.
Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by paxys on Sunday April 21, 2024 @08:21PM (#40110419)
Debunked where? The only response is from Amazon (in the same article), who are disputing the number but still admitting that the team did intervene when needed.
Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by Dylan16807 on Sunday April 21, 2024 @09:21PM (#40110716)
And they did not give their own number, so even the dispute is very weak.
Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by jedberg on Monday April 22, 2024 @12:23PM (#40115829)
Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by jnaina on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @03:27AM (#40129456)
The 1000 Indians working to track all activities remotely was/is a false story.

See link below:

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7186447...

Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by r00fus on Monday April 22, 2024 @12:18AM (#40111375)
Can you please produce any evidence that it was debunked? I can't find anything.
Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by jedberg on Monday April 22, 2024 @12:23PM (#40115832)
Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by Culonavirus on Sunday April 21, 2024 @11:15PM (#40111160)
You don't have to cover for Amazon. It's a megacorp, it's going to be fine without you.

You make all these claims, "false rumor" this and "debunked" that, back them up with nothing, and then when someone posts a link in response you're like "See! Amazon debunked it."

???

Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by sillysaurusx on Sunday April 21, 2024 @11:28PM (#40111198)
No need to make this personal. This is about Amazon, not jedberg.
Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by jedberg on Sunday April 21, 2024 @11:53PM (#40111278)
I'm certainly not defending Amazon, I'm defending AI. What they build was impressive and worked for the most part (I saw the behind the scenes). It was just really expensive because you needed high resolution full coverage of the entire store.

I just find it disingenuous for people to pull out this example as "why AI doesn't actually work" when it's not an example of it.

Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by pvg on Monday April 22, 2024 @01:21AM (#40111596)
Why would it be disingenuous? They could be just misinformed or wrong.
Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by nyc_data_geek on Monday April 22, 2024 @11:40AM (#40115422)
Please provide evidence of your claim.
Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by jedberg on Monday April 22, 2024 @12:23PM (#40115833)
Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by nyc_data_geek on Monday April 22, 2024 @10:27PM (#40127832)
From TFA: "While Amazon insists these reports are “erroneous,” it doesn’t deny that humans aren’t involved with the process at all. Instead, Amazon says its workers are tasked with annotating AI-generated and real shopping data to improve the Just Walk Out system — not run the whole thing. “This is no different than any other AI system that places a high value on accuracy, where human reviewers are common,” Dilip Kumar, the vice president of AWS Applications, writes in the post."

Don't see how this refutes any claim. If anything, Amazon is confirming they have human intelligence involved, they're just leaving the quantity/portion ambiguous, as behooves them. Do you have Amazon equity?

Re:Amazon Grows to over 750k Robots, Replacing 100k Humans by nyc_data_geek on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @10:05PM (#40139647)
Nevermind, I see from your profile, you do have Amazon equity.

"I used to run reddit.com's servers, then I ran Site Reliability at Netflix, then I worked on making Alexa faster and smarter."

Real astroturf hours here. Please keep your Amazon apologia to yourself.