Modeling the world in a way that alienates or fails to serve people in specific places or cultures, creating undue technical burden on data consumers, causing pains that discourage mappers from contributing, dividing the already precariously small community, wasting volunteer time on later schema migrations

> causing pains that discourage mappers from contributing

Like not rendering (bus dedicated) roads despite them being tagged as (bus dedicated) roads using a tag approved by the community three and a half years ago. The openstreetmap.org website currently shows gaps all over the world wherever bus dedicated roads exist. This certainly discourages for mappers.

Compare:

Carto (default):

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.32853/5.04991&layer...

Tracestrack Topo:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.32853/5.04991&layer...

What are the odds, this random example points to only a couple km away from my home.

I had never seen OSM for the area, the detail around Maxis is astounding. And the busway is quite relevant to understand traffic around the area.

"What are the odds, this random example points to only a couple km away from my home."

Probably a rhetorical question, but the odds for you individually were probably low, but the odds that the random example (where random here still means close to major cities) was close to some HN reader were probably quite high ..

Don’t wait for me to do it; you can steelman too: It’s plausible that the consequences of an actively wrong implementation would be more costly than this delay.

Instead of just throwing costs at each other, you could acknowledge the other party’s and then argue that yours are greater. (I personally would agree with you about this.)

I see the same roads in both, one of them has a dashed pattern on top. What is the problem?

In the first one what you’re seeing is just the absence of grass.

As an OSM contributor, the biggest pain for me is working hard to add data to the map only for it to not show up at all or look ugly.

Bus routes? I've read the wiki pages in order to map them. I don't even ride the bus, I just wanted to add the data in. Why put in all that effort when the map won't even show it though?

> Why put in all that effort when the map won't even show it though?

Just select a different layer, the "Transport Map" renders bus routes: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#layers=T

This is a problem with all maps. You cannot show everything, so you reduce it to something you want the map to show. While things like waste baskets, hydrants, dog excrement bag dispensers, etc. Can reasonably show up on deep zoom levels because they're just small icons, I think bus routes can clash with plenty of things that many people would also consider important.

Remember Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Names [1]. The amount of trouble people from across the world have had with tech, because some SWE in Silicon Valley decided that the way their names work is how everyone's names in the world work.

[1] https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-...

I'm very aware of those issues. My full name has four words, it does not fit into first/last name fields. I have to deal with that problem constantly. I'm reminded of it every single time I pay for something with a credit card due to their idiotic first/last name fields. Some of them even have length limits.

This is a non-issue with Open Street Map. Tags are freeform. You can input literally anything into the database. You can have simple tags or ridiculously detailed and nested schemas, and values can be literally any text. You can and should seek community consensus so that a controlled vocabulary can be created and documented, effectively turning it into an API. It's not actually required though. If you have geospatial information and you add it to the map, the map is made richer and more useful than it was before. The map didn't have that data at all and now it does. Doesn't actually matter if the format hasn't been agreed upon yet, it can always be edited later so that it fits into a more regular format. I did a lot of tagging and schema improvements in my city.

Software that consumes the Open Street Map dataset obviously won't render the data it doesn't understand. They should be made to understand more stuff. Software can always be updated to make the most of data. The data has to actually be there to be usable though. The software won't matter at all if the data is missing or if it's garbage.