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Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by stanford_labrat on Saturday April 20, 2024 @01:10PM (#40098807)
Because in reality the two party system is not accurate. It’s rich versus poor, those with power versus those without. Nobility versus peasants. That’s just how it works.
Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by Gud on Saturday April 20, 2024 @02:00PM (#40099316)
That's how it works in the USA, not necessarily how it works. Other forms of governing exists.

A big step forward for the USA would be a vast reduction of federal power over the states.

Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by pessimizer on Saturday April 20, 2024 @02:26PM (#40099586)
Other countries don't institutionalize the two-party system by law. Because it would be insane and antidemocratic to create a complicated network of laws that would have to be eliminated state by state in order to ordain that an entire country must be ruled by two intimately-linked private clubs in turn.
Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by cryptonector on Saturday April 20, 2024 @06:54PM (#40101723)
The two-party system isn't so heavily institutionalized "by law". The law generally gives advantages to parties that pull in more than x% of the vote, and it so happens that the first-past-the-post system of electing representatives makes it very difficult for a third party to take root.
Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by dartos on Saturday April 20, 2024 @08:19PM (#40102202)
The first past the post system is encoding a two party system into law. If it makes to hard enough for a third party to take hold, there might as well not be one.

Not everything is spelled in ink.

Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by bigstrat2003 on Saturday April 20, 2024 @10:50PM (#40102812)
That's not "encoded into the law". The outcomes of the law are not the same as the law itself.
Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by dartos on Sunday April 21, 2024 @02:42AM (#40103643)
Practically speaking, they are.

The effect of a law is at least as important as the literal words on the page.

Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by int_19h on Sunday April 21, 2024 @03:03AM (#40103728)
Except our law is nothing like that. You can have a party take 45% of each district across the whole country and end up with zero seats in the House (because the other party took 55% of each).
Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by sapphicsnail on Saturday April 20, 2024 @05:53PM (#40101346)
How would that help? Political parties operate in states. States are banning books and outlawing abortions too.
Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by artificialLimbs on Saturday April 20, 2024 @06:34PM (#40101622)
States are not printing billions of dollars and shipping it overseas or wholesale spying on their populace for the purpose of political manipulation.
Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by theoldlove on Saturday April 20, 2024 @10:27PM (#40102737)
The US federal government is already pretty weak compared to other countries. The federal government looks pretty bad at the moment, but I’m not sure further weakening it will help the country.
Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by Gud on Sunday April 21, 2024 @02:16AM (#40103528)
Compared to wich countries,

The US is a massive country, with the populace far removed from the decision making. I believe this is the core problem.

Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by int_19h on Sunday April 21, 2024 @02:44AM (#40103650)
The US federal government is very strong compared to many countries, just limited in where that power can be applied... in theory. In practice, the insanity that is a precedent-based judicial system over time means that it's all just a disorganized mess where on one hand the Feds can straight up prevent you from boarding a plane, ever, without any semblance of due process (this is not normally a power you'll find in other countries), and yet can't regulate many mundane things like firearms.

However, there is a very solid case for a weak federal government, and it is simply that US is a country that's way too big for any coherent national policy on most matters that we've currently pushed there. It's such a vicious fight because it's half the country trying to bludgeon the other half into submission, motivated by the knowledge that, if you yield, the other guy will pick up this huge club and do the same to you. This will continue until the country breaks down unless we dial it down to state level and accept the fact that other states may have laws and lifestyle that is despicable or horrifying to us in some ways. Either that, or we might as well just break the whole thing apart now and not wait for it to happen in a more violent manner.

Re:Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance prog... by yoyohello13 on Saturday April 20, 2024 @11:21PM (#40102944)
Yep, that’s how it has worked throughout all of human history.