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Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by snoopsnopp on Friday April 05, 2024 @06:05PM (#39947818)
I don’t mean to be the morality police, but that seems illegal.
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by brightball on Friday April 05, 2024 @06:30PM (#39948072)
It was an internal tool and the VP was the head of IT. Everything still worked, it was just painful to use. He could have pulled the plug on it at any time.
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by epolanski on Friday April 05, 2024 @07:41PM (#39948588)
I don't think any of those details matter, that's still illegal and you could've gotten in trouble legally.
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by hamandcheese on Friday April 05, 2024 @07:53PM (#39948669)
What law was broken?
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by CamperBob2 on Friday April 05, 2024 @07:51PM (#39948658)
I'm curious; what law was being broken, exactly?
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by epolanski on Friday April 05, 2024 @08:11PM (#39948790)
Breaking fiduciary duty would be the first that comes to my mind.

Previous user took a very huge risk. I've seen similar stuff happen, you can get sued (along whoever told you, but you need proof) just for the sake of making an example in front of the rest of the company.

Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by systemvoltage on Friday April 05, 2024 @08:42PM (#39948970)
CEO can say it is his fiduciary duty to phase out old software and put a brand spanking new modern enterprise grade system.

Also, still it is not illegal. Just that the shareholders need to sue him to matter at all.

Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by ikiris on Friday April 05, 2024 @08:49PM (#39949004)
Where do you think fiduciary duty exists as a random software dev?
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by hn_throwaway_99 on Saturday April 06, 2024 @12:52AM (#39950077)
Fiduciary duty is a particular legal concept about the responsibility one party has to another, and only applies in specific, defined circumstances. A random developer doesn't have a fiduciary duty to anyone, and he wasn't taking any risk.
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by sgentle on Saturday April 06, 2024 @02:54AM (#39950547)
Sibling commenters: for what it's worth, the notion of an employee having a fiduciary duty to their employer isn't as crazy as it sounds. eg, see here: https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=724a91e1-94f1...

That said, I think it'd be a pretty tough argument to make that an employee following the instructions of their superior was breaching fiduciary duty. If they weren't acting to their employer's benefit, then whose? Employee fiduciary duty cases tend to be more about things like embezzling or competing with your own company while you're still working there.

An example of Fox getting shut down for trying to claim that sexual harassment was a breach of fiduciary duty: https://www.barnespc.com/news-articles/limitations-on-the-sc...

Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by epolanski on Saturday April 06, 2024 @10:59AM (#39952939)
> That said, I think it'd be a pretty tough argument to make that an employee following the instructions of their superior was breaching fiduciary duty.

There has to be proof about that. If everything was verbal how do you prove it?

There's no way around the fact that sabotaging your company is illegal and a breach of contract.

Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by ikiris on Saturday April 06, 2024 @03:55PM (#39954968)
The leap you took from following your director's expectations to sunset a product to sabotaging your company is pretty epic.
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by hn_throwaway_99 on Saturday April 06, 2024 @11:52AM (#39953233)
Thanks for the correction, TIL.
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by throwaway5959 on Saturday April 06, 2024 @02:24AM (#39950449)
I don’t see how it’s any different than Windows ME.
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by ajcp on Friday April 05, 2024 @08:00PM (#39948726)
morality <> legality
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by burnte on Friday April 05, 2024 @09:01PM (#39949060)
What laws do you think making a bad tool violates?
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by gosub100 on Friday April 05, 2024 @09:20PM (#39949153)
but you can't seem to name which crime.
Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by bobnamob on Friday April 05, 2024 @10:01PM (#39949393)
The operative word is “internal” in OPs post.

Incentives and adoption goals for internal tools are weird at large corps. Intentional suckage is just another tool to drive migration

Re:Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have been wo... by fbdab103 on Saturday April 06, 2024 @12:50AM (#39950070)
Even if it were an external tool, I fail to understand how there would be a legal problem. Companies use all sorts of shenanigans to encourage users to migrate. Immoral? Sure, but software crossed that bridge a long time ago.

Heaps of people online have stories about how Microsoft tricked them into upgrading Windows.