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Re:Shenzhen Issues Plan to Promote Development of HarmonyOS ... by Havoc on Friday April 05, 2024 @09:18AM (#39942002)
Can’t say I blame them give how windows is going. The UI approach reminds me of a wall that has been repeatedly painted over but only partially and the entire thing is dragged down by the telemetry
Re:Shenzhen Issues Plan to Promote Development of HarmonyOS ... by netsharc on Friday April 05, 2024 @11:36AM (#39943714)
> The UI approach reminds me of a wall that has been repeatedly painted over

Ah, you're talking about Windows' UI. I was wondering where I could see screenshots of HarmonyOS. But yeah Windows 10/11's "Settings" is a mix of mobile-esque UI and the old-school Windows 7 (or XP?) control panel screens. I'd hate to be working on it, the PM's must've said everything needs to be reworked but they didn't give the UI/UX designers and developers the time to do so before "We've got to ship! Besides, we do continous delivery now, if we don't finish it, it can wait until the next release!".

Interestingly, I'd be curious how much telemetry an OS made under the Xi regime would have, at least in China. From an article [1] (on HN yesterday: [2]), when police visited a teen and told him he uploaded "anti government" videos:

> “That’s ridiculous,” Vincent said. “I have never browsed such videos, not to mention posted them in the Internet. You must be joking.”

> “Maybe you didn’t post it by yourself,” the policeman said. “But the app may back up the video automatically.”

> Vincent admitted that once, in a WeChat group, he had come across a terrorist video. The police instructed him to get his I.D. card and accompany them to the station. After they arrived, they entered a room labelled “Cybersecurity Police,” where Vincent was impressed by the officers’ politeness. (“It’s not scary at all, no handcuffs and no cage.”) The police informed him that they had found a host of sensitive and banned material on his cloud storage:

> “But how interesting it is!” the policeman said. “They sent pornographic videos, traffic accident videos, [breaking news] videos, and funny videos.”

> “Yes,” he said helplessly, “so I am innocent.”

> “Yes, we believe you,” the policeman said. “But you have to [sign] the record because it is the fact that you posted the terrorism video in the Internet, which is illegal.”

[1] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/04/08/how-chinese-st... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39923662

Re:Shenzhen Issues Plan to Promote Development of HarmonyOS ... by dangus on Friday April 05, 2024 @12:32PM (#39944392)
I think your evaluation of Windows is outdated. Windows 11’s settings screen is quite unified. I haven’t seen anything that resembles Windows 7 in a long time.

The rest of your comment is pretty irrelevant to this OS if I’ll be honest. It’s all about cloud storage and uploads, all activity unrelated to the local OS.

Re:Shenzhen Issues Plan to Promote Development of HarmonyOS ... by Havoc on Friday April 05, 2024 @01:48PM (#39945157)
Windows 11 is miles better than 10, but it's still a hot mess. Here's a couple of windows I just pulled up to illustrate.

https://i.imgur.com/2Od5WIJ.png

Can't even get all the windows to the same light/dark mode let alone have a unified look of components. Variety of title bars, different checkboxes, different fonts, colours even the way window navigation works differs in jarring ways within areas like control panel (sometimes opens new window, sometimes uses current, sometimes current but with sublevel logic).

Maybe I'm just sensitive to this sort of thing, but unified is certainly not a word I'd apply.

Re:Shenzhen Issues Plan to Promote Development of HarmonyOS ... by BobbyTables2 on Saturday April 06, 2024 @01:32AM (#39950229)
I think it’s ironic that Windows is removing “windows” from the UI.

I used to be able to have System settings and Windows Update open at the same time. (Not the best but something like this bugged me recently). Now I can’t?!?

Can’t even flip back and forth (without triggering rescan of windows updates).

Maybe Windows 12 will just be a touch enabled DOSSHELL.EXE

Re:Shenzhen Issues Plan to Promote Development of HarmonyOS ... by Havoc on Saturday April 06, 2024 @03:53AM (#39950787)
Yeah it’s one of those things where if you notice it once it’s hard to unsee