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Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by judah on Thursday April 04, 2024 @05:28PM (#39935992)
The company that builds a robot that can do household chores will be very, very rich.

I want a bot that can do laundry (load washer, load dryer, fold, put away), do the dishes (rinse, put in dishwasher, put clean dishes away, wash pots & pans), vacuum floors, dust, clean up messes, empty garbage bins, take out the trash, mow my lawn, trim bushes, clean tables, mop floors, make meals, cleans toilets and sinks and bathrooms.

Currently myself and my wife split these duties, and kids help a bit. But it's still a ton of work for us. I would love to offload all that and more to a robot.

Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by layer8 on Thursday April 04, 2024 @06:50PM (#39936771)
Human-sized robots (arguably needed for some of the tasks you list, being able to walk stairs, etc.) will be creepy due to how physically imposing they’ll be, and with a risk of being dangerous due to how massive they’ll need to be. For example falling over due to malfunction/collision/tripping, and potentially crushing a small child. I don’t see such a product happening for home use.
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by bobbylarrybobby on Thursday April 04, 2024 @07:40PM (#39937170)
If a robot is adept at washing dishes and folding laundry, it suggests our technology is good enough that they should have a decent shot at remaining upright indefinitely, or falling gracefully and righting themselves afterwards.
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by PopePompus on Thursday April 04, 2024 @08:20PM (#39937423)
Perhaps the entire kitchen sink could be redesigned with robotic dish washing in mind. No bipedal Boston Dynamics style robot washing your dishes and taking out the trash - just two arms built into the sink with automated drains and soap dispensing to wash dishes, put them in a rack, and do nothing else. I'd pay quite a bit for that.
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by jdlshore on Thursday April 04, 2024 @09:21PM (#39937765)
How is that different than a dishwasher? The problem is collecting the dishes and putting them away, not washing them. Unless you’re imagining something to scrub pots and pans?
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by PopePompus on Thursday April 04, 2024 @11:15PM (#39938352)
I think that in reality, most people do a very light pre-wash of many dishes, before loading them into the dishwasher. I know I do. I'd be happier if I could just stick the plates in the sink, and come back an hour later to find the dishes, pots, pans and utensils drying in a rack.
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by adam_arthur on Thursday April 04, 2024 @07:50PM (#39937232)
Can just be a pair of hands and a camera on extendable/retractable wires, with a wheeled base. Probably much cheaper than making a humanoid.
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by tkgally on Thursday April 04, 2024 @07:09PM (#39936958)
Exactly. And add one more thing: Help with the care of the elderly and invalids.

As it happens, I turned sixty-seven today. While I am in good shape now, it's reasonable to assume that I might need personal care at some point in the not too distant future. A humanoid robot assistant that could handle many of those tasks would be great.

I have no idea when or whether that will become possible, though.

Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by another2another on Friday April 05, 2024 @11:34AM (#39943685)
If there was a smallish vehicle (thing? I'm thinking johnny #5) that could:

hold and carry things you give it (without spilling), and carry then set them down where you ask.

or pick things up from the ground for you.

Then that would probably be a great help for lots of older people.

I'm not that old myself, but I've seen lots of older people who are otherwise self-sufficient struggle with some of these things as mobility starts to suffer.

If it could also talk to you and give sass back, then that would also be a bonus.

Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by duped on Thursday April 04, 2024 @07:15PM (#39937011)
Maids will be cheaper than robots for at least a decade
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by wdh505 on Thursday April 04, 2024 @08:34PM (#39937509)
Are you willing to pay for privacy as a premium?
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by duped on Thursday April 04, 2024 @08:39PM (#39937536)
I don't think whatever Silicon Valley cooks up will be more private than a human who has fallible memory
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by PopePompus on Thursday April 04, 2024 @09:05PM (#39937674)
I don't want to pay someone to clean up my messes. That is not the kind of relationship I want to have with another human. But I'd happily pay for a machine that did it.
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by duped on Thursday April 04, 2024 @11:46PM (#39938500)
I understand that this is coming from a place of privilege, but I was raised with regular maid service cleaning our home as a child and it's just something you learn to live with. You pick up after yourself for the easy things like throwing out garbage and picking up your clothes on the floor so the maids can do the heavy work like deep cleaning everything that's not in the way. And it's not necessarily unaffordable for biweekly cleaning.

You don't hire a maid service to clean up after you, you do it because they do a better job at all the stuff you really don't want to.

Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by swat535 on Friday April 05, 2024 @10:04AM (#39942512)
You would literally be making the same argument for any other breakthrough tech:

Why invent a dishwasher? You can have someone do it! Why have automated elevators? You can have someone do it! Why have automated farming systems? You can hire cheap Mexicans to do it!

We like to invent technologies to help make people's lives easier.

Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by fragmede on Friday April 05, 2024 @05:23AM (#39940407)
That person doesn't have a better job available to them though, so without that job, you're sentencing them to destitution, which seems like a worse outcome for them. Fortunately you don't have to see it though.
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by lobochrome on Thursday April 04, 2024 @07:05PM (#39936927)
Self driving cars seem tame in comparison.
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by PopePompus on Thursday April 04, 2024 @08:26PM (#39937461)
I don't think so. To my knowledge, nobody has ever been killed by a Roomba. The robot problem is a lot less scary if there are essentially no life-and-death consequences for random innocent bystanders.
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by fragmede on Friday April 05, 2024 @05:28AM (#39940438)
a robot arm capable of doing the dishes is also capable enough to manipulate a knife (commonly found in kitchens) in a stabbing motion. Not intentionally, of course, but the sci-fi story of this going bad writes itself. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do it, I'll be the first in line to buy a robot arm sink dishwasher, but robotics is dangerous, even when not piloting a several ton vehicle down the road.
Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by freitzkriesler2 on Thursday April 04, 2024 @05:35PM (#39936052)
Pretty much this. We pay a cleaning service for the privilege to vacuum and dust.

A robot that does it for me that I can buy for $15k and last a decade? Id be all over it.

Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by onlyrealcuzzo on Thursday April 04, 2024 @06:22PM (#39936534)
Robots can already vacuum and mop floors pretty decently for <$2k.

No one is building a robot to dust your antique china collection anytime soon.

Re:Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing' by freitzkriesler2 on Thursday April 04, 2024 @07:43PM (#39937198)
Meh those robots don't do a good job with young children . The amount of debris they have to work around isn't worth it.