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Re: by archagon on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @04:46PM (#39622043)
Why not, if “losing that war” means being slaughtered and starved indiscriminately and pushed out of your homeland?
Re: by gataca on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @05:40PM (#39622698)
Again, words have meanings even if you don't like them. There is nothing indiscriminate about Israel's actions, which somehow have not been able to match Hamas's one day total of slaughtered and raped civilians. War is awful and I hope that Hamas surrenders soon to end it.
Re: by archagon on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @05:42PM (#39622710)
"which somehow have not been able to match Hamas's one day total of slaughtered and raped civilians" — what do you mean by this? Over 1,000 civilians were killed by Hamas, whereas around 30,000 people (including many innocents) have been killed in Gaza — almost two orders of magnitude more. As you say, words have meanings.
Re: by gataca on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @05:48PM (#39622768)
Israel, which you claim is indiscriminately bombing civilians, has not been able to match Hamas in killing 1,200 civilians in a single day of this war despite dropping thousands of bombs.

You can use buzzwords to try and distort reality but this is clearly a highly targeted military campaign where Hamas is sacrificing it's own civilians as human shields. That sucks and Hamas should surrender, but Israel should do what it needs to defeat Hamas.

Re: by archagon on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @05:50PM (#39622782)
If Hamas refuses to surrender until the bitter end — which is likely given their extremism — then what should Israel do? If Gaza gets squeezed until 90% of the population is blown up or starved, would you care?
Re: by gataca on Thursday March 07, 2024 @08:27AM (#39628780)
This is why the world (and people like yourself) should pressure Egypt to take in civilian refugees.

Here's the thing - Israel is totally justified in utterly destroying Hamas and returning the hostages they hold. If Hamas wants to add their own civilians to the hostages they're holding, then the world should team up to destroy them, just like we did with ISIS, which like Hamas is a jihadist Islamic supremacist group. They don't get to rape and murder and then hide behind civilians to prevent people from stopping them from simply repeating this.

Re: by h3rsko on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @05:41PM (#39622704)
Israel left Gaza in 2005
Re: by henry2023 on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @04:56PM (#39622166)
Yeah, I forgot Zionism started last October. Thanks for the reminder
Re: by gataca on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @05:42PM (#39622713)
You're correct, Jewish national self-determination started several thousand years ago and Israel is currently the most successful indigenous people's movement in the world.