> Do you also not drive a car in a place where your driving can be twisted into jail time when you hurt people?

If you believe figurative and actual violence are identical, this analogy makes sense.

Economic violence is a form of violence - it isn't identical to physical violence... but violence can take many forms.

> violence can take many forms

This is a bogus modernist interpretation that dilutes the meaning of violence. Fortunately, it’s being rejected after having a moment that peaked during lockdown.

Earlier in the threat someone mentions PG & E and how their negligence resulted in deaths.

How should this be treated? Fining the company for someone’s actions that caused deaths doesn’t seem enough.

People go to jail for non-violent crimes as well.

Again, why does personal responsibility for harm to others bother you?

> why does personal responsibility for harm to others bother you?

Personal responsibility is irrelevant. You’re constructing a lower threshold for criminality. I know the first thing I’d be trying to figure out is how to put my competitors in jail.

Let’s take Epic v Apple. Epic went to court. It lost. This entire saga has cost Epic’s shareholders billions. Should Sweeney go to jail? Would the world be better if an Apple-friendly prosecutor could take up that challenge?

If we have a cultural failing in America, it’s having a reflexive urge to turn outrage into jail time.

> I know the first thing I’d be trying to figure out is how to put my competitors in jail.

Provide an incentive for companies to regulate each other! Let rational self-interest clean up the market while the state steps back and looks on!

> Provide an incentive for companies to regulate each other

Do you think there is a reason every modern democracy resists privatising criminal prosecution? (They had it in Rome. We probably need a history of law section in the basic high-school curriculum.)

The justice system in this hypothetical would not be private, it's just that companies would be trying to sue each other for breaking the rules, accidentally advancing the public interest.

> companies would be trying to sue each other for breaking the rules

We already have private enforcement of many rules. Environmental ones, for example. We’re specifically discussing criminality, putting people in jail.

Fair enough. I just see it as an escalation in deterrence.

People can and do go to the prison in many instances when companies are just fined for similar offense.

What are those kind of offense which company or individual commit equally?

Tax evasion. Bribes (sorry, I meant lobbying). In case of self-driving cars, literally running over people.