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Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by rvba on Sunday March 03, 2024 @02:41PM (#39583737)
Are there really?

If we ignore alcohol. We have few groups:

1) Coffee / tea (caffeinated so many cant sleep after them)

2) Yerba mate (isnt it the same group as caffeinated drinks? Also availability is low)

3) sugary drinks (cola, fanta, soda..) - basically liquid diabetes

4) juices (they are sugary again even if other type of sugar)

5) milk (nobody sells / buys milk?)

6) water with lemon

So if you want to sleep, dont want sugary drinks you are left with water with lemon.

Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by standardUser on Sunday March 03, 2024 @02:44PM (#39583763)
If you can tolerate a very tiny amount of alcohol, bitters with soda is a great cocktail substitute. There's also "hop water" beverages that I really like that have no calories.
Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by matwood on Sunday March 03, 2024 @02:49PM (#39583821)
Non-alcoholic beers have also gotten quite good.
Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by artyom on Sunday March 03, 2024 @09:42PM (#39586578)
Second this. I love beer and hate alcohol and lately non-alcoholic beers (specially of blonde types) have become very high quality.

Just avoid the over-industrialized ones, like you'd do with normal beers.

Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by hughesjj on Sunday March 03, 2024 @10:03PM (#39586669)
Partake and athletic are amazing but my favorite is still asahi dry zero, just hard to find

Also laguinitas hopwater is the bomb and I like it better than actual IPAs

Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by rdonahue on Monday March 04, 2024 @07:50AM (#39589835)
Try mixing some zero sugar lemonade w/ Hopwater. It's fantastic.
Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by kzrdude on Sunday March 03, 2024 @02:45PM (#39583774)
Herbal tea is good (but good luck ordering that in a bar!). And personally, pure fruit juices are fine for me.
Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by Fargren on Sunday March 03, 2024 @02:56PM (#39583882)
Yerba Mate is very caffeinated, and I wouldn't say very different from tea, aside from the social norms around it.
Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by rjsw on Sunday March 03, 2024 @03:19PM (#39584129)
What is wrong with citron pressé?
Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by FrankoDelMar on Sunday March 03, 2024 @03:18PM (#39584116)
kombucha
Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by astura on Sunday March 03, 2024 @03:29PM (#39584243)
Kombucha is my drink of choice, but it is fermented tea so if tea is out so is kombucha.

The other options I can think of are are flavored seltzers/flavored water, Mocktails/virgin cocktails/Shirley Temples, agua fresca, non-alcoholic beer, and herbal tea. Availability varies, of course.

Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by inglor_cz on Sunday March 03, 2024 @03:42PM (#39584355)
Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by ElevenLathe on Sunday March 03, 2024 @08:56PM (#39586336)
Nutritionally, kwas is just an eccentric kind of pop marketed to eastern Europeans. The modern mass-market stuff is even made the same way: syrup and forced carbonation.