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Re:Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat by jp_nc on Friday March 01, 2024 @08:10AM (#39561418)
If he thinks GPT-4 is AGI, Elon should ask a team of GPT-4 bots to design, build and launch his rockets and see how it goes. If “economically valuable work” means creating terrible, wordy blog posts then yeah I guess it’s a risk.
Re:Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat by bart_spoon on Friday March 01, 2024 @08:47AM (#39561705)
I don’t think GPT-4 is AGI, but that seems like a foolish idea. An AGI doesn’t need to be hyperproficient at everything, or even anything. Ask a team of any non-aeronautical engineers to build a rocket and it will go poorly. Do those people not qualify as intelligent beings?
Re:Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat by blibble on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:35AM (#39563439)
> Ask a team of any non-aeronautical engineers to build a rocket and it will go poorly. Do those people not qualify as intelligent beings?

I suspect you'd have one person on the team that would say "perhaps you'd be better choosing a team that knows what they're doing"

meanwhile GPT-4 would happily accept and emit BS

Re:Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat by ToValueFunfetti on Friday March 01, 2024 @12:42PM (#39564369)
Have you used GPT-4? I'd criticize it in the opposite direction. It routinely defers to experts on even the simplest questions. If you ask it to tell you how to launch a satellite into orbit, it leads with:

>Launching a satellite into orbit is a complex and challenging process that requires extensive knowledge in aerospace engineering, physics, and regulatory compliance. It's a task typically undertaken by governments or large corporations due to the technical and financial resources required. However, I can give you a high-level overview of the steps involved:

Re:Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat by spencerflem on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:48AM (#39563614)
Outperforming humans does not mean outperforming an average untrained human
Re:Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat by stubish on Friday March 01, 2024 @07:39PM (#39568673)
Why does AGI infer outperforming any humans? Half the humans on the planet perform worse than the average human. Does that make them non-intelligent?
Re:Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat by spencerflem on Friday March 01, 2024 @08:30PM (#39568955)
That's the definition given by Sam Altman above
Re:Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat by Petersipoi on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:37AM (#39563466)
You're just highlighting the issue. Nobody can agree on the definition of AGI. The most people would agree that being able to design, build, and launch rockets is definitely _not_ the definition. The fact that M$ has such a stronghold in OpenAI means that they won't declare anything as AGI even if most people would say it is.
Re:Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat by Andrex on Friday March 01, 2024 @04:31PM (#39567037)
Pre and post-AGI might be a line, but AGI at inception will necessarily be less capable than the same AGI tech later in its life.