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Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by dakiol on Thursday February 29, 2024 @08:33AM (#39549073)
Be ready to handover a copy of your national ID/passport
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by e145bc455f1 on Thursday February 29, 2024 @12:07PM (#39552112)
They didn't even ask me for that, straight up banned my account.
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by alwayslikethis on Thursday February 29, 2024 @08:42AM (#39549161)
Can you elaborate? I have a VPS and a storage box on Hetzner and I'm so far satisfied with it, minus the sometimes confusing interface between their different products.
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by MikusR on Thursday February 29, 2024 @09:04AM (#39549422)
Because they are so cheap, they are often used by spammers or other shady entities. So occasionally they may ask for ID. For example, if you connect from one country, use an address from another country and use prepaid card from yet another country.
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by crotchfire on Friday March 01, 2024 @04:28AM (#39560134)
used by spammers

Then why don't they just ask for ID if you want port 25 unblocked?

Doesn't add up.

Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by V__ on Friday March 01, 2024 @05:02AM (#39560301)
The ports are blocked by default for new customers. After a few billing cycles, a request can be made to have it lifted.
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by formerly_proven on Thursday February 29, 2024 @09:52AM (#39550055)
Their fraud detection is very advanced. Any new customer is simply banned after registration and before they can order anything, the customer just needs to unban themselves by going to one of two phishing data collectors ehrm I mean identity verification partners and hand over everything you need to buy a car in your name. Simple and legit.
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by hypefi on Thursday February 29, 2024 @12:29PM (#39552360)
This is what happened to me basically, I was so happy I found a cheap provider, I got locked out I didn't even know what to do to unban my account. I will keep using my old provider ...
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by thijsvandien on Thursday February 29, 2024 @11:30AM (#39551548)
I'm impressed other people are actually given options.
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by cbg0 on Thursday February 29, 2024 @10:28AM (#39550608)
Where exactly can someone else buy a car with a copy of your ID?
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by toast0 on Thursday February 29, 2024 @10:49AM (#39550949)
A car dealership?

My credit is great (and currently locked), and is probably enough to get a car with a "$0 down" offer, although those often do require some payments at time of purchase. If you can answer the credit application questions and present ID with my name that looks good, you've created a big mess for me.

Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by e145bc455f1 on Thursday February 29, 2024 @12:05PM (#39552083)
Why is every comment critical of Hetzner being downvoted?
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by fortunateregard on Thursday February 29, 2024 @01:05PM (#39552788)
I've had a similar experience where my account was banned despite providing all the info they requested (including my passport).

Hetzner was the only provider where I was banned despite providing everything I was asked for. I've deployed services on plenty of providers (AWS, GCP, Digital Ocean, Vultr, etc) without issue.

Apparently, this has been an on-going struggle for them. A few weeks ago they were even called out on an episode of the syntaxFM podcast for this behavior after one of the hosts had his account banned [0].

It's still a bit of a mystery to me honestly. Is their fraud detection so poor where they're forced to ban new sign-ups in this manner? How can Hetzner's competition tell that these accounts are legitimate (without ridiculous requirements such as passport) and Hetzner can't (even when provided with full home address, passport, etc)? I'm assuming Hetzner can't because they've seemingly developed a reputation for banning legitimate developers and the only reason I can think of where they'd be fine with that is if they actually have a very difficult time telling whether an account is legitimate or not.

[0]: https://twitter.com/stolinski/status/1750226126499139665

Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by jamesblonde on Thursday February 29, 2024 @03:03PM (#39554302)
They are like Ryanair and Lidl brands - you get a reasonable product super-cheap. Don't argue about the terms and conditions, just be happy to do business with us. If you don't buy, somebody else after you will. This is not classic VC-funded IT. It's mass-market, low margin, low risk consumer products. It's not Enterprise IT.
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by crotchfire on Friday March 01, 2024 @04:27AM (#39560129)
It's mass-market, low margin, low risk consumer products

None of those have anything to do with demanding that customers expose themselves to identity theft risk.

Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by type0 on Friday March 01, 2024 @05:40PM (#39567660)
They banned my prepaid account, I had few bucks on left on it to test and evaluate some selfhosting services. I didn't try to ask for my money back as I saw it like a pointless time waste trying to contact them.
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by jeltz on Thursday February 29, 2024 @03:15PM (#39554457)
They have never asked me for any of my three accounts. And one I paid with credit card the two other with bank wire.
Re:Hetzner switches to new billing model by costco on Saturday March 02, 2024 @09:24PM (#39577875)
This will be required in the US for all providers within a year unless a sufficiently large number of people comment on the Commerce Department's proposed rule: https://www.natlawreview.com/article/us-department-commerce-...