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Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by i-sam on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @01:59AM (#39520952)
Personally YouTube is ruined for me because of sponsorships. It just became advertisement packaged as content.

I understand from an economical perspective why people do it, but I can't shake the feeling that the content is just an excuse and the ad is the meat of the content.

Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by a_wild_dandan on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @02:41AM (#39521238)
Install SponsorBlock! With YT Premium and that, my video experience is completely ad-free.
Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by thaumasiotes on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @08:13AM (#39523658)
Install an ordinary ad blocker and your video experience will be completely ad-free without needing YT Premium.
Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by Pet_Ant on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @10:20AM (#39525099)
Sorry, but an ordinary ad blocker will not block the ads embedded in the video.

Apparently "SponsorBlock" actually solves that. Haven't of it before, but the description is promising.

>>> SponsorBlock lets you skip over sponsors, intros, outros, subscription reminders, and other annoying parts of YouTube videos. SponsorBlock is a crowdsourced browser extension that lets anyone submit the start and end times of sponsored segments and other segments of YouTube videos. Once one person submits this information, everyone else with this extension will skip right over the sponsored segment.

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/sponsorblock-for-yo...

Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by thaumasiotes on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @07:23PM (#39532213)
> Sorry, but an ordinary ad blocker will not block the ads embedded in the video.

Yes, that's why I called it a replacement for YT Premium and not a replacement for SponsorBlock.

Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by phone8675309 on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @10:24AM (#39525144)
With YT Premium the people you watch actually get paid even if you skip the ads.
Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by extraduder_ire on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @12:14PM (#39526586)
They would get paid slightly less though, since the premium revenue split is based on watchtime IIRC.
Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by mrguyorama on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @12:18PM (#39526644)
The people I watch don't get paid from youtube ads, don't like youtube ads, don't like Youtube forcing ads on videos they do not want to put ads on, don't like random companies forcing ads onto a video THEY made based on some nonsense "contentID" system that is trivial to cheat, and can't rely on youtube not shutting down their channel over "copyright" reasons that aren't even valid.

Patreon means all they have to do is exactly what they want to do, put that on the internet, and make a livable wage. This isn't exactly an isolated case either. Every youtube creator between 100k - 1 million "subscribers" is better served by just doing what they want and being supported by patrons. It is the single most direct and viable form of talent funding.

Most of these creators actively dislike youtube, which is why they push their literal replacement; nebula.

Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by rainbowzootsuit on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @02:36AM (#39521211)
You are one of today's 10,000.

https://sponsor.ajay.app/

And if you have android:

https://github.com/polymorphicshade/Tubular

Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by mvdtnz on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @02:41AM (#39521236)
Extensions like sponsor block don't help when entire videos are centered around promoting a product. A very popular mountain bike channel I used to follow, GMBN, for example, pretty much only makes videos in order to promote sponsors. The sponsors drive the very content we're here for, it's not just 30 second spots.
Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by Diti on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:06AM (#39521411)
SponsorBlock can also tag entire videos of the kind you cited! It won’t block them by default, but the choice of what to do when you find out will be yours.
Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by mathieuh on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @04:22AM (#39521960)
I do notice that the GMBN and GCN videos that are just advertorials do have "AD" in the top corner when you look at the video thumbnail. I'm assuming this is an EU or UK thing, because there are a lot of other channels that do exactly the same thing but there's no such "AD" callout.

https://imgur.com/iorhrD7

These videos take away from the channel's integrity for me but at least they're clearly marked as ads

Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by rainbowzootsuit on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @09:04AM (#39524220)
Fair point there. That channel would just have to drop for me if the "review" videos got excessive, and find a replacement or no replacement.

I'm looking to skip the embedded ad-read sponsorships, credits, the "thanks for subscribing," and "thanks for our patreons" stuff and sponsorblock does that in spades.

Re:The creator economy can't rely on Patreon by barrysteve on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:23AM (#39521510)
Yeah it changed mid-2020. Youtube was a nice place to go.

Cheap entertainment is getting boring.