Re:What Do We Get Wrong About the Byzantine Empire?
by acjohnson55 on Monday February 26, 2024 @10:50PM
(#39519947)
Weren't the Tarquins Etruscans?
Re:What Do We Get Wrong About the Byzantine Empire?
by kragen on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @08:24AM
(#39523751)
originally, yeah
Re:What Do We Get Wrong About the Byzantine Empire?
by acjohnson55 on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @10:21AM
(#39525120)
Right, so even pre-Republic, the Roman purity test is kind of problematic.
Re:What Do We Get Wrong About the Byzantine Empire?
by kragen on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @10:16PM
(#39533540)
agreed
Re:What Do We Get Wrong About the Byzantine Empire?
by mcmoor on Monday February 26, 2024 @11:00PM
(#39520007)
I guess it can already be argued that Roman Kingdom != Roman Republic != Roman Empire. And if we continue this logic even further, they are all != Eastern Roman Empire.
But the name itself is a source of pride and everyone after still wants to claim that they're continuation of it, so much that we have more than one ship of Theseus by the end.
caesar had control over a very different territory than tarquin, very different styles of art, and a very different government and military than tarquin, and although he spoke tarquin's language, his subjects mostly didn't speak sabine and etruscan like tarquin's subjects did. i think you can make a case that basileios's government was a lot more similar to caesar's than caesar's was to gaius marcius rutilus's; certainly the justification caesar's assassins gave for killing him was that his government was uniquely un-roman
so sure, ship of theseus, but that didn't start with caesar. caesar was already five centuries of radical changes past tarquin (who also barely had a foothold in italy) and seven centuries after the mythological romulus