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Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by rosmax_1337 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @09:24AM (#39467494)
Why does google dislike white people? What does this have to do with corporate greed? (which you could always assume when a company does something bad)
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by hnburnsy on Thursday February 22, 2024 @11:33AM (#39469520)
Maybe this explains some of it, this is a Google exec involved in AI...

https://twitter.com/eyeslasho/status/1760650986425618509

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by caskstrength on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:12PM (#39470029)
From his linkedin: Senior Director of Product in Gemini, VP WeWork, "Advisor" VSCO, VP of advertising products in Pandora, Product Marketing Manager Google+, Business analyst JPMorgan Chase...

Jesus, that fcking guy is literal definition of failing upwards and instead of hiding it he spends his days SJWing on Twitter? Wonder how its like working with him...

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by hirvi74 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:26PM (#39470226)
> literal definition of failing upwards

Fitting since that's been Google's MO for years now.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by mhuffman on Thursday February 22, 2024 @09:39AM (#39467722)
>Why does google dislike white people?

Because it is currently in fashion to do so.

>What does this have to do with corporate greed?

It has to do with a lot of things, but specifically greed-related the very fastest way to lose money or damage your brand is to offend someone that has access to large social reach. So better for them to err on the side of safety.

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Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by orand on Thursday February 22, 2024 @11:04AM (#39469081)
Anti-racism is racism. Systems to "mitigate systemic bias" are systemic bias, and explicitly so, which makes them far more evil.
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by didntcheck on Thursday February 22, 2024 @11:11AM (#39469208)
It's not some passing fad. Companies and institutes have been very open and self-declaring about viewing "whiteness" as a bad thing and explicit about wanting to have fewer white people in desirable positions or depicted
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by bequanna on Thursday February 22, 2024 @11:17AM (#39469276)
> It's recognizing and mitigating systemic bias, where there is currently a massive bias for whiteness, maleness, heterosexuality, etc.

Where is this “systemic bias” people keep crying about? I don’t see it in ads, in hiring policies, in college admission policies, etc.

In fact, I see the opposite: the group you mentioned is vilified and artificially held back across the board because it is fashionable. Fighting racism with a different kind of racism makes absolutely no sense.

The more we deviate from a meritocracy the more we all lose.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by ActionHank on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:10PM (#39470004)
They've blindly over-compensated for a lack of diversity in training data by just tacking words like "diverse" onto the prompt when they think you're looking for an image of a person.
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by trotsky24 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:17AM (#39468315)
It historically originated from pandering to the advertising industry, from AdWords/AdSense. Google's real end customers are advertisers. This industry is led by women and gay men, that view straight white males as the oppressors, it is anti-white male.
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by datadrivenangel on Thursday February 22, 2024 @09:41AM (#39467763)
Google dislikes getting bad PR.

Modern western tech society will criticize (mostly correctly) a lack of diversity in basically any aspect of a company or technology. This often is expressed in shorthand as there being too many white cis men.

Don't forget google's fancy doors didn't work as well for black people at once point. Lots of bad PR.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by rosmax_1337 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:11AM (#39468218)
Why is a "lack of diversity" a problem? Do different races have different attributes which complement each other on a team?
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by tczMUFlmoNk on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:24PM (#39470200)
Yep, people from different backgrounds bring different experiences and perspectives, which complement each other and make products more useful for more people. Race and gender are two characteristics that lead to pretty different lived experiences, so having team members who can represent those experiences matters.
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by latency-guy2 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @01:06PM (#39470806)
> people from different backgrounds bring different experiences and perspectives, which complement each other and make products more useful for more people.

Clearly not in this case, so it comes into question how right you think you are.

What is the racial and sexual makeup of the team that developed this system prompt? Should we disqualify any future attempt at that same racial and sexual makeup of team to be made again?

> Race and gender are two characteristics that lead to pretty different lived experiences, so having team members who can represent those experiences matters.

They matter so much, everything else is devalued?

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by rosmax_1337 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @01:56PM (#39471411)
Does this mean that teams consisting of mainly brown and black members should actively seek out white members, rejecting black and brown potential members?
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by romanovcode on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:27AM (#39468478)
> Do different races have different attributes which complement each other on a team?

Actually, no. In reality diversity is hindering progress since humans are not far from apes and really like inclusivity and tribalism. We sure do like to pretend it does tho.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by lupusreal on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:14PM (#39470049)
Amazon considers an ethnicly homogenous workforce as a unionization threat. Ethnic diversity is seen as reducing the risk of unionization because diverse workers have a harder time relating to each other.

I think this partially explains why corporations are so keen on diversity. The other part is decision makers in the corporation being true believers in the virtue of diversity. These complement each other; the best people to drive cynically motivated diversity agendas are people who really do believe they're doing the right thing.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by fdsfdsafdsafds on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:41AM (#39468704)
By that argument, developing countries aren't very diverse at all, which is why they aren't doing as well.
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by tomp on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:08PM (#39469965)
> (mostly correctly)

You mean mostly as a politically-motivated anti-tech propaganda?

Tech is probably the most diverse high-earning industry. Definitely more diverse than NYTimes or most other media that promote such propaganda.

Which is also explicitly racist (much like Harvard) because the only way to deem tech industry “non-diverse” is to disregard Asians/Indians.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by u32480932048 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:26PM (#39470230)
inb4 "Asian invisibility isn't a thing"
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by BurningFrog on Thursday February 22, 2024 @11:05AM (#39469113)
I think it's kinda the opposite of greed.

Google is sitting on a machine that was built by earlier generations and generates about $1B/day without much effort.

And that means they can instead put effort into things they're passionate about.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by givemeethekeys on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:30PM (#39470282)
Why do so many white men continue to work at companies that dislike white men?
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by VirusNewbie on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:18PM (#39470120)
The funny thing is, as a white (mexican american) engineer at Google, it's not exactly rare when I'm the only white person in some larger meetings.