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Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by iLoveOncall on Thursday February 22, 2024 @08:41AM (#39466891)
How did you explain the hundreds of pairs of glasses to TSA?
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by stavros on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:20AM (#39468360)
I don't like how normalized it is to ask "how did you explain sunglasses in your luggage to the police?".

Too totalitarian for me.

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by wolverine876 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @05:07PM (#39473979)
Isn't it the reality that's too totalitarian? Should we deny the reality? That seems even more insidious.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by stavros on Thursday February 22, 2024 @05:16PM (#39474082)
That's my point, that the reality is too totalitarian.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by iLoveOncall on Saturday February 24, 2024 @02:15PM (#39494324)
You're misrepresenting the issue.

Have one bottle of Sudafed in your luggage and nobody will care. Have 100 bottles of Sudafed and you're going to jail for drug manufacturing.

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by stavros on Saturday February 24, 2024 @02:32PM (#39494459)
Oh sorry, you're right, I'm misrepresenting the issue. What's the LD50 for sunglasses again?
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by mackman on Thursday February 22, 2024 @08:43AM (#39466932)
I explained what they were for :-)
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by hunter2_ on Thursday February 22, 2024 @09:04AM (#39467207)
Any worry about counterfeit glasses? I recall during the last eclipse it was a bit tricky: product detail pages would often list some ISO numbers or whatever, but no reason to trust that, so instead you could find a short list of manufacturer names on some highly reputable website (maybe a government or health site?) but then don't use Amazon due to the commingling problem...
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by smashed on Thursday February 22, 2024 @09:42AM (#39467772)
https://eclipse.aas.org/eye-safety/viewers-filters

And buy direct, don't use Amazon because of the counterfeit risks.

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF on Thursday February 22, 2024 @11:35AM (#39469546)
I got these that purport to be from the company's official store. Am I dead? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZZPRB7L
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by wongarsu on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:13PM (#39470038)
Because of commingling, anything shipped by amazon might be a fake, even if the seller is legit. Basically if two people (claim to) sell the same product, they get thrown in the same bin in Amazon's warehouse. When you order it you get whatever the worker happens to pick from that bin. Amazon can track it internally by the labels, but have little inclination to do so.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF on Thursday February 22, 2024 @01:54PM (#39471386)
Ah hell. Good thing I have time to order different ones. These guys are legit, right? https://www.rainbowsymphony.com/
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by DanAtC on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:09PM (#39469974)
Commingled inventory; maybe.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by mackman on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:24AM (#39468426)
Yeah, I did worry. I told the flight crew people were at their own risk. I don't remember where I bought them from. Might have been B&H photo which sells their own branded ones in bags of 100 cheap. Maybe from aas.org. It's been a long time.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by bashinator on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:31AM (#39468568)
<3 B&H. Finding them was a breath of fresh air given how garbage Newegg has become.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by swozey on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:52PM (#39470610)
B&H absolutely has their own problems. About a decade+ ago I thought they were also my savior from newegg, whom I really dislike.

They are often pulling stuff like this, tax evasion, LOTS of discrimination complaints, etc https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-owned-bh-photo-accused-...

Their return policy isn't great by any means. I buy a $2000 49" Monitor that arrives not working and I can't return it because I opened and tried to turn it on? Yeah, ok.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/ReturnExchange....

> Nonreturnable Items

Opened TVs, combos and monitors 37" and larger — original packaging cannot be unsealed Opened computers and computer software — original packaging cannot be unsealed Electronic software downloads Opened consumable items (e.g., film, tapes, paper, bulbs, CD, DVDs, ink cartridges, etc.) Any computers built or modified by B&H to customer specifications Select special-order merchandise, or any item indicated on the website as nonreturnable Underwater equipment that has been submerged Opened or unwrapped educational tapes and books

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by gottorf on Thursday February 22, 2024 @03:24PM (#39472645)
> LOTS of discrimination complaints

> A US Labor Department lawsuit filed in 2016 accused B&H, the largest non-chain photo and video equipment store in New York City, of heavily discriminating against Hispanic employees by forcing them to use separate, unsanitary bathrooms.

Man, I had no idea. Forcing an ethnic group to use separate bathrooms? Whoever thought that was a good idea?

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by jen729w on Thursday February 22, 2024 @01:37PM (#39471202)
> Their return policy isn't great by any means. I buy a $2000 49" Monitor that arrives not working and I can't return it because I opened and tried to turn it on? Yeah, ok.

I know some consumer protection laws aren’t as strong as others – I’m blessed to live in Australia in this regard – but surely this just isn’t legal?

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by zamfi on Thursday February 22, 2024 @01:44PM (#39471281)
I suspect they didn't say "you're SOL", they probably said "file a warranty claim".

Retail stores aren't usually on the hook for items that arrive non-functioning from the manufacturer -- the manufacturer is.

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by roganartu on Thursday February 22, 2024 @02:29PM (#39471845)
Which is bad, from a consumer protection perspective.

The retailer should absolutely be on the hook. They are the ones with a working relationship with the manufacturer, and hence are best positioned to be able to hold the manufacturer accountable.

As an Australian who lives in the US atm, they are right to be grateful for the ACCC (consumer protection watchdog). I certainly am now. In the US you have to rely on retailers who treat good consumer protection as a competitive advantage like Costco, REI, Best Buy, sometimes Amazon, etc. In Australia you can easily hold any retailer accountable (and they’re all just generally better behaved with this stuff anyway, so you rarely have to force them).

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by gottorf on Thursday February 22, 2024 @03:27PM (#39472706)
> In the US you have to rely on retailers who treat good consumer protection as a competitive advantage

For the most part, credit card chargebacks serve a similar purpose, though of course the retailer may ban you from their store afterwards.

Absolutely agreed that the retailer is on the hook. The customer is not making a deal with the manufacturer to buy the good; the customer is making a deal with the retailer. Along the same line, I dislike it when retailers try to weasel out of shipping issues by blaming it on the parcel carrier. That's only valid if the customer went to ups.com and created and paid for a shipment themselves!

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by swozey on Thursday February 22, 2024 @02:02PM (#39471493)
Bestbuy etc take opened items like that back up to 30 days. I think it used to be much longer in the past but I would 100% expect to be able to return a dead tv/monitor/electronic of any sort to a big box store take my broken item back even if I opened it and plugged it in to use it.

I rarely buy from box stores but when I do that and being able to test things in person is the only reason I ever go near a bestbuy/etc.

Microcenter for instance- https://community.microcenter.com/kb/articles/28-what-is-the...

> Products not eligible for return *

Opened software such as Microsoft Office, Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Windows Server, and Microsoft Windows Server clients Electronic software downloads Point of Sale Activation Cards that have a dollar value Micro Center Gift Cards (except as required by law) Products with customer-induced damage such as, but not limited to, aerial drones with damage due to pilot error. So let’s be careful out there! Microphones and microphone accessories * VR Headsets, Headphones, including AirPods, Earbuds, and Over-the-Ear Products

* Hardware items deemed defective are eligible for exchange

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by jen729w on Friday February 23, 2024 @03:39PM (#39485807)
> Retail stores aren't usually on the hook for items that arrive non-functioning from the manufacturer -- the manufacturer is.

One of the great things about Australian consumer law: the retail store is responsible.

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by bashinator on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:32AM (#39482734)
Crap. Guess it's Microcenter.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by mikeInAlaska on Thursday February 22, 2024 @02:23PM (#39471760)
newegg shipped me six 16TB hard drives that were garbage. Some looked like a claw hammer ripped through their soft aluminum shells. Some had no connectors.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by hunter2_ on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:56AM (#39468934)
I actually just did some clicking through from the AAS vendor list that smashed offered, and B&H certainly has a strong entry in the reputable-and-cheap category! Less than $1/ea [0].

[0] https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1750791-REG/american_...

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by Cthulhu_ on Thursday February 22, 2024 @09:53AM (#39467959)
Do you have to? They're legal products for a national flight, what would the TSA want with that?
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by thfuran on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:17AM (#39468321)
You might have to if they look sufficiently weird on the scan. But your end of the conversation is unlikely to be much more involved than "Yeah, that's my bag", "It's a bunch of eclipse viewing glasses".
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by flaminHotSpeedo on Thursday February 22, 2024 @02:06PM (#39471543)
I once brought a carry on full of random electronics/cables, including a partially disassembled desktop power supply in a "custom made modular plastic enclosure" (read: box made out of Legos, complete with a Lego door for the cables to pass through). To make matters worse I was in a rush while packing so the cables were a huge tangled mess.

They flagged it for further inspection, unsurprisingly, but the agent was pretty amicable, I didn't really get any grief

Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by nilamo on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:59PM (#39470709)
"Is it dangerous? Then mind your goddamn business."
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by eschneider on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:25AM (#39468440)
"I'm the sort of kid who brought enough chewing gum for everyone in the class."
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by mackman on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:27AM (#39468480)
Hah, well, yeah. I did learn in high school that if brought Starbucks to the front office staff and my first period teacher nobody ever marked me tardy :-P
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by eschneider on Thursday February 22, 2024 @11:08AM (#39469157)
That was an important (and transferrable!) life lesson learned. :)
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by bavent on Thursday February 22, 2024 @11:48AM (#39469703)
That having enough money lets you get away with things?
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by reaperducer on Thursday February 22, 2024 @01:33PM (#39471150)
That being nice to people gets you farther than being a dickweed.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by renewiltord on Thursday February 22, 2024 @01:56PM (#39471407)
Yeah, you need the money, but you also have to do the thing. Useful lesson.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by jldugger on Thursday February 22, 2024 @02:49PM (#39472126)
But is it compatible with the Categorical Imperative?
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by skyyler on Thursday February 22, 2024 @04:26PM (#39473483)
Oh my god, critiquing pure reason is so 300 years ago.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by mcculley on Thursday February 22, 2024 @02:07PM (#39471551)
I find such investments often have unexpected returns. At worst, I did something nice for someone.
Re:Eclipse viewing at 30k feet: Delta to offer path-of-total... by zo1 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @03:01PM (#39472283)
I know you're being snarky, but yes. Having money and being genuinely generous towards people will put you on good terms with them. Just like being nice and polite and friendly and considerate, same thing.