Re:Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros
by freedomben on Thursday February 15, 2024 @05:44AM
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I don't think Apple is in any danger of a "reputation hit", at least with anybody who matters. The type of fans who buy AVP will parrot whatever Apple's marketing department decides to release, and they'll add their own apologetics on top. For the general public, they don't even know about AVP yet so they won't care. I can't think of any other company on the planet that has an army of defenders who will defend every policy/move and even claim altruism, regardless of how self-serving it is for Apple. If you're waiting to see people turn on Apple, it's gonna be a very, very long while yet.
Re:Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros
by jaggs on Thursday February 15, 2024 @05:53AM
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Not sure why you're getting voted down. Unless it's because you also annoyed the Musk crew. They can be quite...well active.
Re:Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros
by mtlmtlmtlmtl on Thursday February 15, 2024 @06:09AM
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The Apple crew can be plenty active too. Generally if I post some criticism of Apple it gets a steady supply of downvotes even when I'm being reasonable. Especially if posted when mostly Americans are online.
Re:Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros
by bondarchuk on Thursday February 15, 2024 @05:57AM
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Because "can't wait for the cope" (and "my opinion will be surpressed") is low-quality and frankly stupid conversation that I don't come here for.
Re:Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros
by saagarjha on Thursday February 15, 2024 @05:38AM
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Apple Car has never shipped, though.
Re:Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros
by Traubenfuchs on Thursday February 15, 2024 @05:40AM
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The positive expectations for AVP form the hacker news crowd baffle me.
At this point I consider it proven that VR headsets strapped to our head are not the future, unless they become as comfortable as normal glasses (forever technically impossible), provide visual fidelity on par with modern high DPI screens (currently impossible?) and have perfect pass through (actually possible, maybe).
Re:Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros
by freetanga on Thursday February 15, 2024 @06:04AM
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I would add that “until there is 100% certainty that having an image so close to your eyes all day will not harm your sight.”
I am no anti-vaxxer or flat earther, but old enough to remember that in the 50s the American Doctors vouched that cigarettes were good for your health, and later plastics were hailed as wonderful, and corn syrup was considered harmless, and eggs were both the devils food and a miracle food.
So much money changing hands that I tend to trust very little certifications on health impact.
Anyway, the world's best tech influencers couldn't rescue AVP, it is a certified DUD and I expect Apple and HN to suppress discussion of it. Cook will try to turn the spotlight elsewhere. He's got good company, Musk seems to also have a certified flop with the Cyber truck.
Lots of people keep talking about how awesome future revs of AVP will surely be...not seeing it, Apple can't afford the reputation hit of iterating a product like this in public...people expect Apple to get it right early on at this point. Meta can afford to iterate in public on VR because they have no reputation in hardware.
I predict Apple will try to wipe the internet of AVP talk and then quietly kill it like they did with the "Apple Car"
Can't wait for the HN cope on AVP