> bedside manner from a teacher

Why would a teacher have "bedside manner"? Sounds pretty sus...

lack of better words to call it, but if a teacher is a bad teacher at an influential time, it easily can sour a student. how is that sus?

A teacher having anything to do with a student's "bedside" is liable to be arrested yeah?

jeebus christo you're either denser than lead or a really bad comedian yeah?

That was probably not very politically correct, but I laughed when reading that.

I think a possible alternative is they’re not a native/regular speaker?

> you're either denser than lead

WTF is up with your personal attack there? That's uncalled for. :(

oh, but your pedo joke is perfectly fine then?

But you're literally saying "bedside manner" in a specific situation. If you didn't mean that, then shouldn't you have picked different wording?

And note, unlike your behaviour, I didn't call you names. I just pointed out your wording was weird. That's not a personal attack.

I guess if you don't know what a phrase means, there's always the internet to look it up before jumping to conclusions.

https://duckduckgo.com/?va=c&t=ha&q=bedside+manner&ia=web

Interesting. Good point about that phrase for doctors. :)

Hi Justin, the phrase "bedside manner" is very common, and was taken out of its original context for all kinds of uses because of medical drama TV shows. It basically means, "general human politeness for people you're caring for that are currently not in a confident position." This can apply to a medical professional that takes care of their patients, or a teacher watching over their students, or the person at Best Buy's Geek Squad explaining why your computer doesn't work. Rather than continuing to rile up the other user for no really good reason, perhaps you can accept that your lack of knowledge regarding common English idioms frustrated that other user, and forgive them for being mean to you. In the future, rather than make pedo jokes, maybe you'll give the phrase a look on Google to see if its been used before, because it likely has. Thank you for your time.

Thanks for taking time to explain things from your point of view.

I've seen the phrase used with medical professionals before.

Never with teachers or other situations though. The results and definition from the duckduckgo search (above) also only show it in use by medical professionals, not with others, and doesn't support your stated meaning.

Sounds like the phrase is used more widely in your part of the world. Good for you I guess. :)

I was leaning towards bad comedian, but now I'm leaning towards lead

Again with the unwarranted personal attacks. :(

Here's a tip: if you encounter this behavior in real life or online again you could simply not respond. It cancels the whole negative chain of communication.

Hi Dylan, in this case, Justin probably wasn't worth the time spent to correct here. Everyone else in the world knows the phrase "bedside manner" and knows you weren't talking about what they thought you were talking about. After an attempt or two, it was probably more worth it to move on, whereas here you made probably half a dozen attempts to reconcile with Justin to no avail, leading you to feel frustrated, which caused you to reduce yourself a bit in this conversation, in my opinion. Have a nice week!

> Justin probably wasn't worth the time spent

You're making personal attacks as well?

To be clear, I'm referring to your pattern displayed in this thread of aggressively taking words outside of context, and not doing a bare minimum effort to try to find reasonable context for them. In this case, it was probably not worth anybody's effort to explain the words to you; this is true. The fact that you're taking it personally as an attack is on you though, not me. Because I don't intend for it to be an attack, I'm simply stating that a lot of unnecessary time was wasted, and unkind words were slung for no good reason. None of it was worth it, because the value you've gotten from now understanding the phrase was not worth the amount of time it took to teach it to you. It's not even just because you weren't very receptive to the information, truth be told, we were maybe also poor teachers here. But I'll give you more information for your time:

A common theme among many English idioms is that a phrase is found in one discipline (ie. the medical discipline), in this case "bedside manner." Some deeper meaning is extrapolated, in this case it is "showing kind, friendly, and understanding behavior for people in your care." And then the phrase is re-used in other disciplines and contexts where the deeper meaning is what is intended to get across to the recipient hearing that phrase, rather than the literal interpretation (ie. the bed isn't necessarily involved at all.)

As another example: "curiosity killed the cat." There's no cat, and it's not necessary that people will die when this phrase is used. It just means "sometimes following your curiosity leads to bad consequences." Hopefully this lesson has helped you the next time you come across an idiom and wonder why they used that choice of words.

You can just read literature. Academic literary analysis has always been a grift imo. Just completely useless nonsense. Doesn't mean that literature isn't enjoyable.

I recently read a book that would count as literary fiction (as opposed to genre fiction) for the first time in over a decade and I enjoyed it quite a lot.

> Just completely useless nonsense.

Explain that to all of those suffering through the reading just to make a grade because it is part of the required list. If I read Scarlet Letter today, I would not enjoy it any more than I did then. I'm just not entertained by some love triangle in a religious uptight society. I get enough of that in my every day life, minus the love triangle. It's the same reason I don't want to watch Rosanne or King of the Hill--it's just too close to home

The book I read was Revelations by Erik Hoel. It was a mystery novel about consciousness researchers. But Hoel is a literature nerd as well and so wrote it in that style. Would perhaps come off as pretentious if not for the good execution.

I always had this issue with assigned reading. I got much worse results when I actually read the book compared to reading just summaries and conclusions on the Internet. If I read myself I came to wrong or irrelevant conclusions and ideas.