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Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by wanderingbit on Friday February 09, 2024 @06:24PM (#39321753)
The youtube video of his VP experience is really oh-shit moment, I agree.

The question I'm still left with is whether these "experiences" have lasting effects on enjoyment and balance with the technology. I'm not looking forward to another dopamine death spiral.

Also, no matter who makes it, I think I will be forever fearful of powerful AR tech. After reading Electric State[1], you realize dystopia is only like 3 (big) steps away.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Electric_State_(graphic_no...

Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by BLKNSLVR on Friday February 09, 2024 @08:15PM (#39322493)
Bought that a couple of weeks ago. Beautiful and worrisome.
Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by screeno on Friday February 09, 2024 @08:37PM (#39322651)
You know what’s never helped me feel better about something? Consuming more media.
Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by jhbadger on Friday February 09, 2024 @09:13PM (#39322885)
Reading a book (which I guess you call "consuming media" as if it were a sort of snack) has made me feel better on numerous occasions.
Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by abirch on Saturday February 10, 2024 @07:49PM (#39331708)
I consider Hacker News as consuming media. Occasionally there's some heartburn, but usually it's very nutrient dense.
Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by elbrian on Saturday February 10, 2024 @06:19AM (#39325321)
You’ve never found comfort in a show, movie, book or video game?

That’s actually really sad.

Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by JetSpiegel on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @04:26AM (#39439365)
There was a HN poster way back then claiming to have never read a novel in their lives. I totally believe an art-free existence is possible.
Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by nickthegreek on Saturday February 10, 2024 @09:33AM (#39326383)
C’Mon. Are you stating no song has moved you? That is straight up unbelievable.
Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by BLKNSLVR on Saturday February 10, 2024 @06:44PM (#39331344)
I actually find the opposite. New perspectives make me feel better about humanity.

The 'worrisome' aspect of The Electric State (or any future dystopia) is it's parallel to a direction humanity could take. However, the fact that someone has taken the time to be aware of it and create a piece of art that's essentially a warning against it, means that, I think, we're better prepared against it becoming true.

The author/artist is an ally.

Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by FirmwareBurner on Friday February 09, 2024 @08:12PM (#39322481)
> I'm not looking forward to another dopamine death spiral.

Yeah, we're ruining human interactions and giving people depression, self doubt, etc, with all this technology that absorbs their lives, but think of all the money we're making for the shareholders. Line goes up. /s

Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by jaredklewis on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:26AM (#39324553)
I dislike this simplistic line of thought because it seems to assume that people have no agency, no preferences, and must buy whatever is produced.

It’s like blaming beer companies for liver disease. Beer is brewed and sold because people like beer. This has also made shareholders lots of money. So what?

Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by Fuut on Saturday February 10, 2024 @04:50AM (#39324932)
And it's a problem.

Thanks to all the ads etc.

So what's your point?

Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by verve_rat on Saturday February 10, 2024 @06:22AM (#39325338)
Cf. smoking and all the success that has been had from banning the advertising of tobacco products.
Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by awongh on Saturday February 10, 2024 @06:25AM (#39325352)
I think almost everyone except the most poisonous libertarians agree that there is some point at which thing tip into the realm of public health.

Look at cigarette companies denying for so long that their product caused cancer (or at one point claiming it was good for pregnant women). Or the sale of assault rifles and their use in mass shootings. Or a less controversial one- that suicide rates were lowered when they changed the type of gas in people’s homes.

I think as a society we can always collectively decide that regulating something might be for the public good. Sometimes we’re even correct about it.

Re:All my thoughts after 40 hours in the Vision Pro by Nevermark on Monday February 12, 2024 @03:55PM (#39350369)
> The question I'm still left with is whether these "experiences" have lasting effects on enjoyment and balance with the technology. I'm not looking forward to another dopamine death spiral.

For me the lasting value is simply a more flexible, ergonomic, and focused work environment than a MacBook (and add on) screens.

The wow has faded quickly, but the convenience of seeing all my relevant info within my eye’s a head’s field of view would be hard to give up now.

I love my iPhone, but for many things, want to use a laptop.

I love my laptop, but now for deep work use the Vision (with the laptop).

I really hope Apple has the sense to release Xcode & terminal for Vision, eliminating any need for a paired Mac.

Or as a half step, allow for more than one Mac screen.

Ergonomically, unlike iPhone or iPad, it is an environment naturally ergonomic for really focused work. (With keyboard & trackpad, and for me, the double strap.)

At a desk, but actually better on a couch or recliner.