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Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by Phrodo_00 on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:15PM (#39297561)
Cyclists can treat Stop signs as Yield signs in California.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by antognini on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @11:51PM (#39298328)
Setting aside the fact that the bill that proposed this was vetoed, a yield sign does not mean "don't stop." Yield means "yield." If there is other traffic that has the right of way you are obligated to stop before entering the intersection.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by bagels on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:20PM (#39297607)
Not legally. There was a failed push for this to become law in the past.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by Phrodo_00 on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:27PM (#39297663)
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by bagels on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:31PM (#39297686)
No lies in the article. "The bill now heads to Governor Newsom's desk" ... where it was vetoed, sadly.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by stronglikedan on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @11:11PM (#39298007)
> where it was vetoed, sadly

Sounds like the gov did the right thing. Cyclists shouldn't get special privileges. They're operating a vehicle on the roadway just like everyone else. Drivers of other types of vehicles shouldn't also have to remember special rules just for cyclists.

Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by standardUser on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @11:24PM (#39298107)
> Drivers of other types of vehicles shouldn't also have to remember special rules just for cyclists.

Drivers of any vehicle should learn all of the rules they need to drive safely and legally. It's not like there's a hundred different types of vehicles on the road. There's some special rules for trucks and motorcycles and bicycles and that's about it.

Plus, travel by bicycle is a net positive for society and I strongly support incentivizing it, including through preferential laws (even though I almost never do it myself).

Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by athrun on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @11:28PM (#39298144)
What are you talking about?

All road users do have different rules for using the road: peds, cycles, scooters, motorcycles, cars, cargo trucks, buses, trams, etc. all have specific rules applying to them.

Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by bagels on Thursday February 08, 2024 @04:52AM (#39300150)
There are restrictions on where bicycles can be ridden that don't apply to cars. Should we get rid of those laws too?

Let's also get rid of the lower speed limits for 18 wheelers, and weight limits on bridges. Why should passenger vehicles have all the fun?

How about lane splitting for passenger vehicles, just like motorcycles get to do?

Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by Mawr on Thursday February 08, 2024 @02:42PM (#39306612)
An easy position to hold when it's physically impossible for a cyclist to harm you in your steel cage but you can kill them on a whim by slightly turning a wheel.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by chihuahua on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:53PM (#39297854)
You can do that, but then you have to accept the consequences when things don't play out the way you had hoped.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by fortran77 on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @11:28PM (#39298148)
Wrong. @dang, please remove this post and block this user. It’s misinformation that can cause injury or death.