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Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by Mistletoe on Sunday February 04, 2024 @03:44AM (#39248655)
But if you’ve read the article, over 500 other planes have all disappeared in the territory and they’ve all been found. So no matter how vast the forest, is they’ve all been found. There seems to be some anomaly with this one.
Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by EdwardDiego on Sunday February 04, 2024 @04:29AM (#39248825)
People have been searching for a lost Dragonfly in the South Island of NZ for decades, we're far smaller (and so was the plane, to be fair) than Alaska! It's a 2.5 hours drive from my town by the Pacific Ocean over the Alps to a wild beach on the Tasman Sea. There's a one day running/cycling/kayaking endurance race from the Tasman coast over a pass in the Southern Alps, down to the Pacific coast. (Guess what it's called)

And the search area(s) is/are reasonably well known now - it was flying to Milford Sound, there were several mountain passes feasible for flying over the Main Divide in a rather underpowered aircraft to get there, and there were some statements from locals in the high country in the east who believe they heard the plane as it flew into the mountains that yielded places to look.

There's a general agreement forming about which area it crashed, but no evidence yet. Makes for good practice in extreme terrain for LandSAR exercises though.

So yeah, far smaller search area, still missing. Google ZK-AFB for more, there's a few books on it, one gent in particular has been searching most of his adult life for it.

Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by lebuffon on Sunday February 04, 2024 @08:12AM (#39249920)
Point of order that I know a Kiwi will understand. Yukon Territory is not in Alaska. It's next door... in Canada. ;-)
Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by EdwardDiego on Sunday February 04, 2024 @06:20PM (#39255562)
Very fair feedback!
Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by RandomBK on Sunday February 04, 2024 @04:20AM (#39248792)
Alternatively, the technique used for finding plane crashes has a 99% recall and we're just happening to talk about the 1% that slipped through. Survivorship bias is not out of the question here.
Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by ivancho on Sunday February 04, 2024 @05:06AM (#39248969)
I think this needs its own cognitive term, it's not a survivorship or selection bias, it's just skipping the selection entirely and just focusing on the sample. So here people go "This plane is an outlier, there must be something special about it", as opposed to "We would just be talking about another missing plane instead". Or in the immortal words of Tim Minchin "If I didn't have you, someone else would do"
Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by sokoloff on Sunday February 04, 2024 @06:58AM (#39249556)
It has survived against being found; that term seems to fit without much torturing of interpretation.
Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by AmVess on Sunday February 04, 2024 @04:08AM (#39248733)
I was in AK when a twin engine plane vanished. It was found a year later, it crashed next to a main road.

Planes can be next to impossible to spot, even when they are next to a motorway.

Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 on Sunday February 04, 2024 @02:51PM (#39253706)
A Mooney was lost in the Rogers Pass along the Trans Canada Highway. A couple years later EMS in a helicopter spotted it some 50 yards off the highway. The local conifer trees are huge.
Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by RecycledEle on Sunday February 04, 2024 @05:50AM (#39249192)
The article said 500 wrecks had been found.

It did not say all reported crashes other than this one were linked to crash sites.

Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by happytiger on Sunday February 04, 2024 @10:12AM (#39250777)
Right? Imagine if it’s 500 found out of 1000 known and any number of unknown crash sites that predate the modern flying era. The size of the input data changes the probabilities tremendously.
Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by jojobas on Sunday February 04, 2024 @06:28AM (#39249431)
With some "luck" most debris could be underground.

The plane has to be there, no aliens would need it.

Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by sorokod on Sunday February 04, 2024 @08:08AM (#39249901)
Would be interesting to see the distribution of how long it took till each was found.
Re:In 1950, a U.S. troop plane carrying 44 passengers vanish... by eps on Sunday February 04, 2024 @08:54AM (#39250197)
And how many were in lakes.