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Re:Over the Edge: The Use of Design Tactics to Undermine Bro... by voltaireodactyl on Saturday February 03, 2024 @06:20AM (#39239318)
Just for the record, you can absolutely change the default search engine in Safari and Firefox. I use kagi in both, so bangs are supported everywhere.
Re:Over the Edge: The Use of Design Tactics to Undermine Bro... by sccxy on Saturday February 03, 2024 @06:58AM (#39239518)
Firefox for iOS supports keyword and %s url scheme for search engines. I am not sure why extensions are needed in desktop.

You can change default search engine, but you cannot add extra search engines in Safari without building your own extension (and paying apple for it)

Re:Over the Edge: The Use of Design Tactics to Undermine Bro... by Macha on Saturday February 03, 2024 @08:16AM (#39240084)
> Firefox for iOS supports keyword and %s url scheme for search engines. I am not sure why extensions are needed in desktop.

So does Firefox desktop...? Extensions aren't needed, just right click on a search field and add it. You can customise placeholders and keywords too

Re:Over the Edge: The Use of Design Tactics to Undermine Bro... by sccxy on Saturday February 03, 2024 @09:19AM (#39240545)
It just creates messy bookmarks. Greatest UX for search...
Re:Over the Edge: The Use of Design Tactics to Undermine Bro... by Macha on Saturday February 03, 2024 @10:30AM (#39241218)
https://superuser.com/questions/7327/how-to-add-a-custom-sea...

The resulting search shows up in the search UI, whether you have firefox configured for a seperate search bar or have their default of the address bar also being the search bar. This is the same as the extension method.

If your complaint is that they also show up in bookmarks, then ehh, whatever. Most people either don't use bookmarks or have a giant dumping pile. If you're one of the 1% that organizes them, just put all your search bookmarks in their own folder.

Re:Over the Edge: The Use of Design Tactics to Undermine Bro... by ginko on Saturday February 03, 2024 @08:39AM (#39240240)
>I am not sure why extensions are needed in desktop.

They aren't. Why do you claim things that aren't true?

Re:Over the Edge: The Use of Design Tactics to Undermine Bro... by sccxy on Saturday February 03, 2024 @09:10AM (#39240478)
Okay, extensions or bookmarks must be used to create custom search.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39239822

Re:Over the Edge: The Use of Design Tactics to Undermine Bro... by kalleboo on Sunday February 04, 2024 @02:55AM (#39248464)
> you cannot add extra search engines in Safari without building your own extension

Safari automatically detects search fields on websites and adds to the smart address bar. E.g. if I type "discmaster myst" Safari will suggest to search discmaster.textfiles.com for "myst". And that's something it automatically picked up. No plugins or configuration needed, users don't need to learn how HTTP queries work.

Re:Over the Edge: The Use of Design Tactics to Undermine Bro... by clemiclemen on Monday February 05, 2024 @09:04AM (#39261294)
Changing the search engine in Safari is limited to a very specific list though. Using Kagi as a search engine in Safari requires using an extension that intercept search engines queries and redirects through Kagi[1].

[1]: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/getting-started/setting-default.h...