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Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by elwebmaster on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @07:16PM (#39211362)
Mixtral > Codellama > DeepSeek Coder. Very weird model, writes super long comments on one line, definitely not at the level of Codellama, benchmarks be damned.
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by chrisweekly on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @08:16PM (#39211794)
tangent: I often have a hard time disambiguating the ">" in comparisons like yours: (A) greater than (ie, Mixtral superior to DeepSeek, w/ Codellama in between) vs (B) arrow/sequence (ie, start w/ Mixtral, progress to Codellama, finally land on DeepSeek as the culmination).

I'd love to hear of a less ambiguous way to represent these.

Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by mooreds on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @08:23PM (#39211839)
How does

Mixtral >= Codellama >= DeepSeek

Work for you?

Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by illusive4080 on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @08:32PM (#39211878)
Sadly that implies that all 3 could be equal or very close to equal.
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by addandsubtract on Thursday February 01, 2024 @07:48AM (#39215387)
Which they can be, when you ask them for a console.log. It does, however, get rid of the ambiguity of case (B) that GP mentioned.
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by mcny on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @09:09PM (#39212069)
I personally use a -> b -> c for sequence, a > b >> c for nested hierarchy.

In this context, I read it as a is better than b which is better than c.

Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by findjashua on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @07:20PM (#39211393)
do you find Mixtral to be better than the new 70B one that Meta released a couple days back as well?
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by findjashua on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @08:22PM (#39211834)
did a comparison on LM Studio - the answers are eerily similar, but Mixtral is way way faster. Codellama-70B is slow to the point of being unusable.

(M1 Max, 64 GB RAM)

Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by _boffin_ on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @07:28PM (#39211457)
Reduce the repetition penalty to 1 and that should fix it.
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by high_priest on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @09:21PM (#39212138)
Mixtral looks interesting, but I haven't dabbled in locally hosted LLMs.

Would you mind linking to a concise text which could lead me through setting up Mixtral on my own machine?

Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by elwebmaster on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @11:16PM (#39212664)
Ollama gui in WSL2
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by findjashua on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @09:33PM (#39212200)
LM Studio is the easiest way to do it
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by Sabinus on Thursday February 01, 2024 @08:00AM (#39215483)
That's what I've been playing with. I can load 9 layers of a mixtral descendant into the 12gb vram for GPU and the rest into ~28gb ram for the CPU to work on. It chugs the system sometimes but the models are interestingly capable.
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by baq on Thursday February 01, 2024 @01:43AM (#39213320)
Had zero experience, too. Turns out ollama does everything, literally. You just tell it to run a model and wait a bit for it to download. One (1) shell command total.
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by aussieguy1234 on Thursday February 01, 2024 @05:02AM (#39214346)
I'm using Mixtral, but rather than shell out for a gaming laptop with an expensive GPU, I simply run it via Together.ai APIs which works out alot cheaper. There's a few similar services out there.
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by maxlamb on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @10:51PM (#39212565)
Is Mixtral better overall or for coding specifically (or both)?
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by apawloski on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @11:55PM (#39212838)
Which mixtral are you using with ollama? I have 32GB M1 MacBook Pro and can’t seem to load it / get any time-realistic responses
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by babyshake on Thursday February 01, 2024 @02:13AM (#39213480)
Just curious, why do you think your evaluation is the opposite of what is shown in this evaluation? https://evalplus.github.io/leaderboard.html
Re:DeepSeek Coder: Let the Code Write Itself by svantana on Thursday February 01, 2024 @09:27AM (#39216261)
Not OP but these evaluations should be taken with a huge grain of salt. It's almost impossible to rule out data leakage of open datasets such as HumanEval.