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Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by EdwardDiego on Friday January 26, 2024 @06:28PM (#39150330)
I'm not tipping anything towards Henry Ford, who helped popularize antisemitism in the US.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/19200522...

Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by Aloha on Friday January 26, 2024 @07:23PM (#39150843)
Ford also allegedly had a stroke upon seeing film of the concentration camps.

He's a mixed bag, generally - he had the engineers problem, he presumed being good at one thing, would make him good at and give him expertise in other things.

Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by pbj1968 on Friday January 26, 2024 @11:09PM (#39152451)
A phenomenon frequently encountered around here. :|
Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by bigstrat2003 on Friday January 26, 2024 @07:06PM (#39150685)
The bad things a person did do not cancel out the good. One should appreciate the good things a person did even though they disapprove of the bad.
Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by yakz on Friday January 26, 2024 @07:39PM (#39151002)
It should cancel out the credit, though. If a bad person does good things, they’re still a bad person.
Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by EdwardDiego on Friday January 26, 2024 @08:25PM (#39151360)
They do when weighing up a person's overall contribution to the world.

If you're one of Hitler's personal heroes, that carries a lot of weight.

Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by js2 on Friday January 26, 2024 @07:04PM (#39150665)
Lump charcoal is better in any case.
Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by MostlyStable on Friday January 26, 2024 @07:38PM (#39150982)
Disagree. As do many professional pitmasters

https://amazingribs.com/more-technique-and-science/grill-and...

Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by Accujack on Friday January 26, 2024 @07:38PM (#39150985)
Yeah. Briquettes are basically bottom of the barrel coal powder, sawdust and other additives mixed with a binder.
Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by MostlyStable on Friday January 26, 2024 @07:39PM (#39150999)
Yeah, you would never find, rocks, metal, nylon rope, or PVC in lump charcoal [0]

https://amazingribs.com/more-technique-and-science/grill-and...

Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by MostlyStable on Saturday January 27, 2024 @12:46AM (#39152963)
Based on the difference in reception of my two comments in this chain, I don't think people realize that this was a sarcastic comment with a link to examples of exactly those things being found in bags of lump charcoal, shopping with a broader comparison of the properties of the two.
Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by js2 on Saturday January 27, 2024 @01:34PM (#39158344)
In my own personal experience, having cooked with both, I prefer lump charcoal lit with a chimney. I've never found rocks, metal, nylon rope, or PVC left behind in my Weber.

But well, that's just like, my opinion, man. The article opens with this disclaimer: "One has to be careful about generalizations here because each brand is different."

I have indeed not cooked with all brands of briquets nor all brands of lump charcoal, so same disclaimer applies to my opinion.

Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by MostlyStable on Saturday January 27, 2024 @10:50PM (#39162383)
Obviously anyone is allowed to like what they like, and it's not that hard to produce good food when you grill/BBQ/Smoke on almost any fuel you prefer, but there is a lot of FUD in these comments about Briquettes. They provide a clean, consistent, repeatible heat, for a very low price.

This topic, like so many that touch on food in some way, gets bogged down in weird superiority complexes. I People can't just let people have different (usually read "wrong") opinions when it comes to food.

You'll note that one person expressed their opinion on lump. I responded with my contrasting opinion. Only one of those two comments got downvoted.

-edit- In case it wasn't clear, I don't think lump is bad. I prefer briquettes because they produce good, consistent, results (for me) at a low price. My link was meant to push back on the idea that lump was somehow "better/higher quality" than briquettes. I'm sure that one can buy cheap, poor quality briquettes that are bad in all kinds of ways. But obviously it's also possible to get bad quality lump (even if that is not representative of all brands).

Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by itisit on Friday January 26, 2024 @06:34PM (#39150398)
Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by Aloha on Friday January 26, 2024 @07:17PM (#39150782)
This book has been fairly and as far as I can tell, widely debunked, and if you've read it, the holes in the arguments it advances are obvious and manifold.

Also, the complete lack of documentary evidence doesn't help - it even overstates the importance of tabulators in the holocaust.

Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by refurb on Saturday January 27, 2024 @01:52AM (#39153278)
Your list of people you admire is going to be pretty damn short if the criteria is “never espoused something horrible”.

And I wonder if people who have a record of your life will look back in 2023 and condemn the views you held?

Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by EdwardDiego on Saturday January 27, 2024 @06:14PM (#39160837)
There's a spectrum of horror when it comes to beliefs. And how much suffering they are related to is important. And I can discern "considered horrible now, but culturally normal for the time".

Something like Hemingway's misogyny is gross, but culturally common at the time, and no-one who read his books tried to murder all the women. Not that he's a personal hero.

Ford buying a newspaper just to warn people about the International Jewry that started WW1 wasn't culturally normal outside of certain far-right groups.

And most likely the future will judge my beliefs a bit, I support the rights of women to access abortion. I'm sure in a few hundred years, abortion will be viewed as a crude intervention only practiced because our medicine was so primitive.

Or my belief that human rights are more important than animal rights.

Re:Tip Your Chef's Toque to Henry Ford, Who Helped Populariz... by refurb on Saturday January 27, 2024 @11:05PM (#39162462)
> WW1 wasn't culturally normal outside of certain far-right groups.

That's absolutely not true. Anti-semitism was prevalent in the mainstream in the early 20th century. Not all that different than racism against blacks.

Hell, look at surveys in part of Europe. Anti-semitism is a sizeable minority now. Imagine what it was like a century ago.