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Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by lazide on Friday January 19, 2024 @02:33PM (#39059972)
What kind of idiot doesn’t take (legal) free money?
Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by wolverine876 on Friday January 19, 2024 @03:12PM (#39060451)
Taking all legal free money is wise, or even just non-idiotic?
Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by lazide on Friday January 19, 2024 @05:14PM (#39062024)
If someone you know (a customer, in this case, with an existing relationship) wants to keep paying you, why go out of your way to say no?

unless there is a specific reason you think they screwed up - like they say they want to cancel, but hit the wrong button or something.

Or you know they’re dead and can’t cancel.

Otherwise it just inconveniences them if they want it, since you cancelled it out from under them.

Bad business, and probably rude unless there is a concrete reason you have to believe otherwise.

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by wolverine876 on Friday January 19, 2024 @05:35PM (#39062291)
> If someone you know (a customer, in this case, with an existing relationship) wants to keep paying you, why go out of your way to say no?

Because I don't want to take people's money that I haven't earned. Why do I want to scam people? Blaming them doesn't make it less of a scam.

> unless there is a concrete reason you have to believe otherwise

Here we agree. You need a concrete reason. For example, if your service streams movies and they haven't streamed one in a year, that might be a concrete reason. Sometimes it's ambiguous, and then send them an email.

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by lazide on Friday January 19, 2024 @06:30PM (#39062858)
Good luck with that. Continuing to provide someone a service isn’t scamming them, even if they aren’t using it.

Assuming you aren’t making it hard to cancel or anything.

And doing all this work in the middle of a high inflation environment…. Do you have a death wish?

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by wolverine876 on Friday January 19, 2024 @08:06PM (#39063549)
Clearly it's a scam. You know they don't want the service or to pay for it; you are just taking advantage of their mistake. You can try to justify it, but really, you can do a lot better. You can make money by earning it, by providing people with something valuable, by making the economy more productive.

> Do you have a death wish?

Huh? I've never needed to scam people to earn a living. I bet you don't need to either.

> high inflation environment

Maybe where you live?

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by lazide on Friday January 19, 2024 @08:13PM (#39063610)
Bwaha. Wow.

So someone paying for a service they signed up for, even if they aren't using it is being scammed.

And we aren't ALL in a high inflation environment compared to a few years ago?

Beautiful.

Tell you what. I’ll let my customers decide when they want to stop paying me money, and I’ll focus on producing a more valuable product for them in the mean time.

And you can tell your customers (you have some right?) to stop paying you all you want for whatever reason you want to.

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by dang on Sunday January 21, 2024 @03:45PM (#39082862)
Can you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? You broke the site guidelines badly in this thread.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by randomdata on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:40PM (#39064742)
> You know they don't want the service or to pay for it; you are just taking advantage of their mistake.

Get this: In this jurisdiction, as an employer I have to legally continue to pay for the services of labor for another two weeks (at minimum, more if the worker has been around for a while) after I no longer want the service. That's thousands of dollars, possibly even tens of thousands of dollars, for a service I don't want.

Curiously, I have never yet met anyone who has politely declined or offered to pay it back. I suppose all workers are scammers by nature.

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by dang on Sunday January 21, 2024 @03:47PM (#39082880)
Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN.

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Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by bongripper on Saturday January 20, 2024 @03:39AM (#39065741)
Dude you're literally so retarded
Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by dang on Sunday January 21, 2024 @03:48PM (#39082886)
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Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by behringer on Friday January 19, 2024 @02:48PM (#39060159)
This with dignity?

Or do you also ask for handouts everywhere you go?

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by lazide on Friday January 19, 2024 @05:10PM (#39061976)
Taking free money isn’t asking for handouts.

Taking free money is (in this case) someone you know handing you $100 and saying ‘merry Christmas’ or whatever.

Sure, you could throw it on the ground and say ‘f you’.

But these are existing customers who already give you money and are presumably happy with your service.

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by wolverine876 on Friday January 19, 2024 @05:36PM (#39062302)
> presumably happy with your service

The OP is about billions being spent by people who are not happy but haven't unsubscribed, so that seems like a bad presumption.

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by lazide on Friday January 19, 2024 @06:30PM (#39062865)
Seems like a bad presumption to assume they aren’t happy with the service.

Or is taking the standard deduction morally reprehensible too?

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by wolverine876 on Friday January 19, 2024 @08:08PM (#39063560)
> a bad presumption to assume they aren’t happy with the service.

The OP says they forgot to unsubscribe, which certainly implies they aren't 'happy' with it.

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by lazide on Friday January 19, 2024 @08:15PM (#39063629)
By OP you mean the article? Or someone else?

The article is a typical editorial. And behind a paywall, near as I can tell.

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by behringer on Friday January 19, 2024 @10:38PM (#39064430)
taking free money is in this case like your grandma living on a fixed government pension giving you 50 dollars even though you're 35 making 100 grand a year and keeping it because fuck her.
Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by lazide on Saturday January 20, 2024 @08:43AM (#39067486)
So everyone paying for a subscription is a poor pensioner?

In this case it’s more like taking the standard deduction.

Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by behringer on Saturday January 20, 2024 @09:15AM (#39067723)
yes, compared to any CEO of these massive conglomerates, absolutely yes.
Re:Americans are spending billions on stuff they forget to c... by makeitdouble on Friday January 19, 2024 @07:23PM (#39063284)
We might need nuance, but dignity doesn't pay the bills.

It reminds me of the donation drives of Wikipedia who are a microcosm of all this tension. Wikipedia is a genuinely important service that needs to keep going, but boy their marketing manipulative and cringy as hell.