Re:Culture Change at Google
by ilrwbwrkhv on Friday January 19, 2024 @04:39AM
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Valve also has much better hackers than Facebook.
Re:Culture Change at Google
by Eisenstein on Friday January 19, 2024 @05:02AM
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Since VR was mentioned tangentially, how many 'Valve hackers' is one John Carmack worth?
I don’t know, how many combined are worth -500 million? Think just one is worth literally hundreds of million more than him all things considered
Zero, right now, as he’s not working with Facebook any more.
Re:Culture Change at Google
by Eisenstein on Friday January 19, 2024 @09:47AM
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I guess everyone takes everything seriously now and there is no light banter anymore...
Not only not working there, but distinctly said he left because he complained that too much money was being sent down the money hole and productivity per capita was abysmal
To play devil's advocate for my own point, Michael Abrash was swiped from Valve by Facebook. The dude is a hardcore hacker. Even the rendering code in Age of Empires II owes him credit for performance optimizations!
> yet they[Valve] crank out new and innovative "products" every 4 years. So much so that they were essentially doing 90% of what Meta is trying to do now with 100x less people and budget.
Innovative products every 4 years? Lol, if Facebook waited that long at any point in time it'd have died.
Comparing Valve to Meta head-to-head is simply ridiculous. I'm not even sure which specific products you had in mind. Did you mean "Meta Quest"? Literally, each division within Meta is fighting in a different sector
Valve has been operating in the same market for 27 years and has consequently built a loyal and enthusiastic fan base.
Even if you believe Meta is directly competing with Valve, it's embarrassing for Valve, as someone in their position should be undisputed in their niche and have the market in deadlock.
I think he’s talking about the Index and their new Linux console
Re:Culture Change at Google
by robertlagrant on Friday January 19, 2024 @05:39AM
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> Even if you believe Meta is directly competing with Valve, it's embarrassing for Valve, as someone in their position should be undisputed in their niche and have the market in deadlock.
Meta can tap a billion people to play social games.
Re:Culture Change at Google
by Apocryphon on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:40AM
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People don’t care to.
Re:Culture Change at Google
by internet101010 on Friday January 19, 2024 @10:57AM
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From a customer perspective Valve is undisputed. Nobody opens any other marketplace unless they have to.
I think the real answer lies in the fact that at a public company, you will need to answer to shareholders, but at Valve, you actually need to answer to the whims of benevolent dictator Gabe Newell.