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Re:Flattr is closing down by bawolff on Thursday January 18, 2024 @11:25AM (#39043704)
Sometimes i feel like people make too much of the "parasocial" buzzword, as if its new.

Entertainers have been doing the pass the hat thing for hundreds of years. It is not a new phenomenom.

Historically, it has generally worked for entertainers, and i guess religion. I don't think there are historical paralells to open source really. Maybe it just doesn't work for that sort of thing.

Re:Flattr is closing down by throwawayq3423 on Thursday January 18, 2024 @01:26PM (#39045546)
Yes but entertainers always remained on stage, they didn't enter your home (as smart phones allow) and talk to you 1 on 1.
Re:Flattr is closing down by Dylan16807 on Thursday January 18, 2024 @04:11PM (#39047800)
Personally, when I watch a big stream, the screen being in my house doesn't make it feel any less like the entertainer is on stage.

And when there's 15 people watching, that does enable real conversations.

Re:Flattr is closing down by throwawayq3423 on Friday January 19, 2024 @06:15PM (#39062700)
Entertainment for TV rarely has the same immersion, Tiktoks etc. feel like they are speaking directly to you.
Re:Flattr is closing down by Dylan16807 on Friday January 19, 2024 @09:25PM (#39064047)
They do? I don't feel that way when I watch tiktoks.
Re:Flattr is closing down by bawolff on Friday January 19, 2024 @04:44PM (#39061632)
Rich people often pay for private performances.
Re:Flattr is closing down by throwawayq3423 on Friday January 19, 2024 @06:14PM (#39062695)
What does the 1% have to do with anything, i'm talking about entertainment at scale.
Re:Flattr is closing down by bawolff on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:02PM (#39064540)
What percent of people do you think form parasocial bonds with social media personalities? Its probably less than 1% of the population (albeit not neccesarily the rich 1%)
Re:Flattr is closing down by robertlagrant on Thursday January 18, 2024 @03:16PM (#39047025)
Entertainers aren't pretending to be your friend, or lover, in exchange for money.
Re:Flattr is closing down by blargey on Thursday January 18, 2024 @07:08PM (#39049862)
Exactly. Normal Patreons and such are run by entertainers/craftspeople who aren't pretending to be your friend, or lover.
Re:Flattr is closing down by tourmalinetaco on Friday January 19, 2024 @12:32AM (#39051897)
To the latter: prostitution has always been prevalent. Now it’s simply through a glass screen and not a peephole.
Re:Flattr is closing down by robertlagrant on Friday January 19, 2024 @07:21AM (#39054598)
Yes, but that's not what people mean by an "entertainer" :)
Re:Flattr is closing down by bawolff on Friday January 19, 2024 @04:43PM (#39061618)
I feel like a lot of entertainment acts have elements of that. Crowd work is an important part of many routines.

Maybe that is not the same as pretending to be your friend but then again that mostly applies only to the more extreme end of streamers.