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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by krisoft on Friday January 12, 2024 @08:27AM (#38967664)
> Very little happened since then, and in particular no one has been held accountable.

Even crazier. The Post Office just recently lowered(!) the amount of money they allocated for compensations: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67784706

They basically allocated a pot of money to pay the people they have harmed off. But these people had to actively go out and request their conviction to be overturned. Which of course many people were reluctant to do, since it means they would be upturning their life again, and going to court and finding lawyers and etc. They understandably have very little trust in the system. So Post Office just shrugged and decided they don't need to keep that much money around.

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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by matteason on Friday January 12, 2024 @09:29AM (#38968333)
And all the while Horizon is still in use and still making money vanish - via both bugs and the £95 million paid to Fujitsu to keep it going for another two years: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67940125
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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by scott_w on Friday January 12, 2024 @08:54AM (#38967926)
> Even crazier. The Post Office just recently lowered(!) the amount of money

It's even worse: they're still fighting hard against the appeals, heaping more misery on the people trying to turn their lives around!

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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by dan-robertson on Friday January 12, 2024 @10:04AM (#38968833)
What exactly does ‘fighting hard’ mean? I got the impression that the judges weren’t very impressed with at least some of their appearances in court.
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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by ndsipa_pomu on Friday January 12, 2024 @10:50AM (#38969493)
They're hiding/losing evidence such as emails and refusing to answer questions.
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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by tuukkah on Friday January 12, 2024 @11:32AM (#38970129)
They hire expensive lawyers who are experts in making black look white.
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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by scott_w on Friday January 12, 2024 @03:16PM (#38973386)
I think you highlighted it right there. They’re fighting even the slam dunk appeals, which is fucking disgusting, in my opinion.
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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by lozenge on Friday January 12, 2024 @06:18PM (#38975496)
They offer token settlements, require the victim to provide lots of evidence they wouldn't have, and expect them to pay for their own lawyers to invoke legal arcana that would get them a just compensation.

https://www.taxpolicy.org.uk/2024/01/11/hss_scandal/

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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by miohtama on Friday January 12, 2024 @09:11AM (#38968119)
Sounds like lawyers are at the driving seat
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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by dccoolgai on Friday January 12, 2024 @09:19AM (#38968199)
IANAL but in my experience, the lawyers would say "doublecheck everything and if we're wrong, pay them so I don't have to spend a lot of effort litigating this". No, I would bet it's a combination of PR flacks and MBA/C-levels who would rather ruin lives than take a clear L on their record.
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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by mcguire on Friday January 12, 2024 @03:02PM (#38973209)
Lawyers don't like losing cases.
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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by scott_w on Friday January 12, 2024 @05:11PM (#38974818)
This is the leadership instructing the lawyers to fight the case. They can stop it at any time but they choose to continue the misery of their victims instead of admitting fault.
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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by LaundroMat on Friday January 12, 2024 @04:35PM (#38974445)
Effort = income, so I don't see why certain lawyers would not be willing to do the case.
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Re:Post Office lied and threatened BBC over Fujitsu dev whis... by alphaomegacode on Friday January 12, 2024 @05:29PM (#38975026)
Seems one of the former senior executives of Fujitsu now runs a gov't agency that handles contracts to digital services vendors like...Fujitsu.

Not sure how the legal authorities work in the UK but people have to be held accountable, regardless of political party. One would think the government's legal authorities have to act on behalf of the citizens not just in holding persons criminally responsible but also compensating victims.

https://democracyforsale.substack.com/p/tory-donor-fujitsu-p...

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