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Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by ptero on Monday January 08, 2024 @05:29PM (#38919205)
I think you are absolutely right that there appears to be some low hanging fruit for tech companies to pick by looking to "second tier metros". But I inertia and (lack of) critical mass play a big role.

In the past decade (i.e., when the money was plentiful) when a startup is young, the TC of its engineers rarely makes or breaks the startup. Being able to get an MVP out and iterate quickly is more important, so it was a rational choice to stay in the Bay Area even if it means 30% inflated TC. And after that moving is expensive in both time and money and risky (e.g., a key engineer might not want to go).

And having a critical mass of tech companies helps attract talent: if a company goes under or has large layoffs it is perceived to be easier to find a new job in the center of the tech hub.

I think covid helped nudge along the process of moving tech development out of SV, but it is a slow process. My 2c.

Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by closeparen on Monday January 08, 2024 @05:39PM (#38919346)
Tech is moving rapidly out of Silicon Valley... but strangely, straight to the developing world, skipping second-tier metros.
Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by sidlls on Monday January 08, 2024 @07:20PM (#38920561)
Some tech is. Meanwhile large tech companies that are actually innovating (FAANG, near-FAANG, and FAANG-adjacent companies) are not. My comp has never been higher, and we're hiring. In the bay area.
Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by alasdair_ on Monday January 08, 2024 @10:32PM (#38921955)
I’m honestly unable to name a single innovation from a FAANG that wasn’t just buying another company or cloning a competitor in the last five years.

What has Meta or Google or Microsoft actually innovated on recently?

Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by fragmede on Monday January 08, 2024 @11:49PM (#38922451)
Self-driving cars, from the Google self-driving car project, which was later renamed Waymo, kinda seems like a big deal to me.
Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by hasty_pudding on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:27AM (#38923067)
Will be interesting to see if they keep it going or shut it gown.

Google has a way of starting something and then shutting it down.

Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by bombcar on Monday January 08, 2024 @10:59PM (#38922134)
The M1 is kinda innovative but Apple did “just buy companies”.
Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by charcircuit on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @12:58AM (#38922902)
These companies are always innovating. Google doesn't just say "Our ad recommendation system is good enough, lets just go into maintenence mode for a year." No. They constantly are trying to improve their models, switch to a better architecture, and innovate to try and eke out a few more percentage points of conversions.
Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by hasty_pudding on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:25AM (#38923056)
They havent innovated on anything of significance in decades. They just sit on their cash crops and buy up startups.