This is mostly a non-issue now - I'm playing Baldur's Gate 3, Dota 2, Warcraft III and everything else on Ubuntu 22.04 now thanks to Steam and Proton. Performance is awesome.

> Warcraft III

Did you get w3champions (https://www.w3champions.com/) running as well? I had a quick look but it didn't seem that straightforward.

Meanwhile valve's own games like portal 2 and team fortress 2 no longer work on linux. Inspires confidence -_-'

I've been running Linux on my work laptop for 6 years now and Nvidia drives are pretty good.

I've been running Linux on a workstation for a year and NVIDIA drivers kill it every other update. I'm seriously considering moving it to the server room and getting something else for my desktop.

Assuming you don’t use Wayland of course.

I’m on Fedora 39 and nvidia drivers work great on Wayland (gnome)

Unless you run Discord, or any Steam game that doesn’t run at you monitor update frequency.

Huh, I’ve had so many problems running Wayland KDE on Arch with nvidia drivers. Maybe I should give gnome another try

Hi, your issue with nvidia on Wayland is probably Xwayland (see: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests...) I'd see if https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xorg-xwayland-explicit-sy... and possibly KwinFT works out for you.

Not currently I have enabled it and quickly went back as the DE would crash (running gnome on pop!_os)

This problem with Linux is pretty much gone and has been for a couple years now.

So ... all the windows games now run on Linux? That would be news to me. And I was just recently messing with drivers, kernels etc to get a working result, but in the end I still could not play the (officially supported) game on Linux that I wanted (opposed to just works on windows), so good for you that your problems went away, but please note, that other people might have had other experiences.

The vast majority just run out of the box with steam now, often with better performance than windows.

Quite a few that use other launchers are "plug and play" installs with lutris (like WoW).

Name a game and it probably works on linux these days.

My favourite games all do, but I'm already using consoles exclusively for my gaming because I was unhappy being held prisoner.

Well, Total Warhammer 3 for example did not work for me through official Steam, even though it should. It runs on the same computer on windows without problems. And with much more tinkering I surely could get it to run on Linux as well .. but I want to play games to relax and not get and solve new problems.

Not all, kernel level anticheat with the big multiplayer games is a problem these days (areweanticheatyet.com), but other than that, most titles work.

Yes and this is awesome, but the comment I replied to, seemed to imply that all the problems went away since years and this is just wrong in my experience and can create wrong expectations for people trying out Linux again - just to get disappointed.

Why are people so obsessed with gaming? It's unbelievable how this industry has gotten so many people hooked, to the point of accepting kernel level monitoring

I solved it by just running a console.

People look down on me for it, but the way I see it: my computing experience is not keeping me prisoner; and I value my time too much to dig about certain issues, you're guaranteed to suffer the "my FPS isn't so good I will investigate" or "this game doesn't run so I will investigate" situations.

Cheats are less common too, so there's less incentive for kernel anti-cheat, and if there was: it would be contained to my "game computer" anyway.

Yup, after I switched to a console - I was finally able to just play games with my friends and not waste mental energy on fiddling with settings.

I don’t have to worry about downloading a game launcher riddled with telemetry or wait 6 months after launch for a PC port to reach a playable state.

I don't think this necessarily represents obsession. It just means they care about gaming at least as much "kernel level monitoring". As a baseline, I don't think there are many people who care much about that. I'm not sure what it is.

Transpose this gaming obsession to other facets of life and see how it goes.

Imagine if most cars were modeled after Lamborghinis and people complained about the lack of turbo or carbon seats when hopping on your Honda Civic.

Imagine if most parks were modeled after football fields and people complained about the lack of goals and lines in your backyard.

Imagine if most knifes were modeled after big damascus blades and people complained about your table knifes when they come for dinner for not being cool and sharp enough

No one's complaining about your Linux if that's what you want to use. The issue remains that for my personal wants, which includes gaming, Linux doesn't fulfill them.

If you gave me a dull knife to carve a turkey or fillet a fish, I would definitely complain about it not being sharp enough. Most people probably have a sharper knife than a table knife for cooking, is that a sharpness obsession?

It's about picking the right tool for the job. On my home server, I run Linux; my gaming computer runs Windows. If you wanna keep going with the knife analogy, look at how many types of kitchen knives there are. There is no knife that does everything just as well as all the others. Asking for a bread knife for cutting a loaf isn't an attack on every other knife.

I'm having trouble understanding the metaphor. If someone went to a park for the purpose of playing football, surely the lack of lines would make them prefer other parks.

If someone is trying to set a lap record, a Camry probably isn't a good choice either. Still works well for getting groceries though.

I like to play a game called Overwatch that doesn’t have kernel level anti cheat, afaik, but I’ve never been able to get it running smoothly enough on Linux even with Nvidia closed source drivers.

I don’t think I’m obsessed with gaming but it is a hobby and if I have to boot into Windows to play, so be it.