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Re:Fixing Macs door to door by qingcharles on Saturday January 06, 2024 @01:40AM (#38889058)
I did this in the mid 90s. It was really fun to see inside a lot of rich people's houses, the sort that have libraries so big they need those ladders with wheels on to scoot around.

I was hit on by several bored housewives, including one that answered the door in her open robe.

One American woman had brought her inkjet from the USA and I hooked it up to a decent convertor, but it wasn't one that converted the frequency, and the inkjet released its entire content of magic smoke, which incidentally was enough to fill a very large penthouse apartment. I ran her out of the apartment, then I remembered it was still plugged in, so I had to stagger totally blind through the apartment to find the damned thing and unplug it lol

That job put me in contact with a criminal gang who went on to supply with me dozens of GBs of stolen hard drives that I used to create what was probably the largest warez FTP in the world and a dump site for most of the top pirate groups like Razor 1911.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by KennyBlanken on Saturday January 06, 2024 @04:20AM (#38889882)
Just a PSA (not trying to harp on parent commenter, just taking their comment as an opportunity to soapbox) but never, ever, every go into a room or building that is getting smokey from something burning. It's how you N+1 the casualty/death count in a fire. Unlike the heroes in films and movies, you don't have Plot Armor.

It is incredibly common that people think they can just go back in holding their breath or stay low or cover their mouth with their clothing like in hollywood...but they take a bit of a breath, cough, and suck in lungfuls of the smoke, and are almost immediately incapacitated.

A lot of things, like PVC for example, release chlorine gas when they burn, which immediately turns your lung mucus into hydrochloric acid. All the other things in the smoke is incredibly bad for you both short and long-term, too.

The smoke is also flammable. Opening a door lets in oxygen, and oxygen + fuel + heat = a fuckton of heat, very suddenly.

I really wish that writers would suffer legal liability for shit like showing people entering a building with their shirt over their mouth - it's where people get the idea that they can so that sort of stuff.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by dreamcompiler on Saturday January 06, 2024 @06:53AM (#38890683)
Firefighter here. I will walk into a burning building if I'm wearing bunker gear, breathing from a working SCBA, carrying a Halligan or axe so I can chop my way back out if I have to, and my buddy is with me carrying a hose squirting water. Lots of water. Said hose must be attached to a BRT (big red truck) on the other end so that when I can't see shit and my air alarm starts beeping we can crawl along by feeling said hose and follow it back out to safety.

Most important, I must have a reasonable suspicion that there are lives inside that might be savable.

Without all that, screw it. That building gets to burn.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by effingwewt on Saturday January 06, 2024 @03:09PM (#38894928)
Really appreciate the work you do and the dangers you risk.

o7

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by FireBeyond on Sunday January 07, 2024 @02:11PM (#38904175)
> crawl along by feeling said hose

Smooth bump bump, back to the pump!

But yep, absolutely. We will risk a lot, in a calculated manner, for savable life. And I will not send my guys interior on a confirmed empty defensive fire.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by gorlilla on Saturday January 06, 2024 @09:10AM (#38891564)
We just had a house fire over the holidays. It started in the basement, I was to the flames in 10 seconds, using an extinguisher another 5-6 seconds later. That failed... I spent another 30 seconds scrambling for anything that might suffocate the flames.... then I had to get out. I was 'upwind' of how the flames were spreading, but was not prepared for the power to suddenly cut out in a room now quickly filling with black smoke.

The whole ordeal was 1-2 minutes before I had to evacuate the house and watch it all burn, helplessly.

Even a good plan isn't always enough; most don't have any plan.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by Cyphase on Saturday January 06, 2024 @12:09PM (#38893100)
Sorry to hear that, that's awful. I'm glad you (and everyone else hopefully) made it out (relatively) safely.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by waltwalther on Saturday January 06, 2024 @12:27PM (#38893283)
Wow. I am sorry to hear that. Glad you are ok, and hope no one was hurt.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by snewman on Saturday January 06, 2024 @09:46AM (#38891811)
Holy cow.

How did the fire start, and where was it initially spreading that went up so fast?

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by wnolens on Saturday January 06, 2024 @10:37AM (#38892267)
> It is incredibly common that people think they can just go back in holding their breath or stay low or cover their mouth with their clothing like in hollywood

Thanks, I had the slight impression that this was true and now feel incredibly stupid.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by FireBeyond on Sunday January 07, 2024 @02:15PM (#38904202)
Yeah, as another firefighter, please don't. That often ends tragically, a t-shirt or towel will do nothing to stop smoke particulates.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by qingcharles on Saturday January 06, 2024 @01:04PM (#38893596)
Yes, it was dumb as hell. I realized that once I'd taken several steps in and could no longer see the way out o_O
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by Projectiboga on Sunday January 07, 2024 @02:26PM (#38904302)
Most likely that printer blew the capacitor by the power feed. It smoked its 'bunch of pixie dust' and was dead. Just the air needed to clear. But yes never go into a burning building, unless you're willing to die trying to save something or someone.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by quickthrower2 on Saturday January 06, 2024 @02:01AM (#38889153)
Wild read!
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by supriyo-biswas on Saturday January 06, 2024 @04:39AM (#38889971)
> That job put me in contact with a criminal gang who went on to supply with me dozens of GBs of stolen hard drives that I used to create what was probably the largest warez FTP

Statements like this seem to agree with the anti-piracy groups' narrative about piracy being closely related to organized crime, a claim that initially seemed questionable to me.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by christoph on Saturday January 06, 2024 @07:47AM (#38890993)
Back in the VCD/SVCD/DVD/PS1/PS2 days, piracy was absolutely heavily interwoven with organised criminal gangs. I couldn’t comment on the current state, but I’d be surprised if there was enough money in media piracy for organised crime to even glance at it, given the vast and easy profits now available in narcotics and fraud.

“HK silvers” were industrially pressed and printed CDs and DVDS you could buy in any market street in SE Asia. Later they started flooding into Europe. For a few years you’d often see illegal DVD sellers outside supermarkets in the UK with all their warez spread out across the pavement for sale.

There was even a local enterprising porn DVD seller in our local area that went around all the local pubs flogging pirated porn DVDs to the inebriated chaps just before closing time. Illegally pressed pirate disks that he purchased from another criminal who mass illegally imported them for resale. These weren’t disks he burnt off with his home PC.

Many of the large FTP sites when I was involved in the piracy community 20 or so years ago certainly seemed to have nefarious links as well if you dared to look or think (so you generally didn’t). Sure, some were just illicitly set up on fast college/university networks by enterprising students, but there were certainly many running around that time that were funded by organised crime.

*edit - I mention above I doubt organised crime is interested in media piracy now, but on reflection I suddenly realised how I’m probably quite wrong on this. There are plenty of illegal IPTV services (re streamed PPV, commercial channels, streaming providers) being illegally sold through the same people & channels as narcotics.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by rvba on Saturday January 06, 2024 @09:20AM (#38891633)
How would organized crime benefit from setting up an illegal FTP?

It just cut in their profits of selling pirated CDs with movies or software

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by AtiRadeon9700 on Saturday January 06, 2024 @11:52AM (#38892947)
Those FTPs were not publically accessible -- the users, numbering in the dozens or hundreds at most, were software crackers, dvd rippers, couriers, etc. So normally a 'top site' FTP would see a steady incoming flow of brand new pirate material that the site owners could use in the money-making side of their operation.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by flumpcakes on Saturday January 06, 2024 @01:04PM (#38893595)
I am very annoyed by TV and streaming services. I have a very nice TV which I specifically chose because it had Google TV builtin, so I wouldn't have to suffer through any third party TV interfaces.

My gosh, it is not very good. I get advertised TV shows I cannot watch all the time. I have legally purchased several streaming services (netflix/disney/prime/apple/etc.) but I have to open each service as a separate application to just browse.

I do not own a TV license, but I will be advertised shows on iPlayer which I _legally_ cannot watch.

My friend has an illegal IPTV subscription, something in the order of $100 for 12 months of access. This has one single interface that lists thousands of live channels, across multiple countries. It has streaming content from every paid streaming service in one searchable / sortable / listable interface. The provider also has their very own branded 'streaming service' which has content in true 4K HDR. Films ripped from 4K disks in full bitrate.

With the rise of Steam / Netflix I have only not paid to consume media when it was not available in my region, now we have another half-dozen services the content has become fragmented.

I currently pay 4x for 1/10th of the service my friend does with illegal IPTV.

Piracy has become attractive again. I'm not sure how this is going to get solved.

Really I want a service where I pay my $10 a month and can stream/watch _everything_ and the royalties just get paid to the content creator. Much like Spotify does for music. I wonder if we will get the same content fragmentation in music streaming in the future; Swift's new album only releasing on Tide, for example. I hope not.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by NoZebra120vClip on Saturday January 06, 2024 @06:10PM (#38896546)
Well, I had personal contact with several large-scale pirates, and AFAIK, they were not involved with organized crime, they were merely well-placed to do high volume transactions.

My first job I had a peer, a low-level contracting employee. We worked in the NOC of a regional ISP. Therefore our backbone was a powerful T1-T3 in the early 90s, and we had comparatively massive storage capacity. This fellow was basically college-age, and he amassed a gigantic repository of pirated software which he termed "AHAB". Most of the other staff in the office knew about his AHAB repository, and he distributed the stuff via anonymous FTP. Often we would partake in such AHAB hauls, but I tried to stay away and stay ignorant of the inner machinations of this stuff. I was ostensibly a legit employee for a legit ISP.

Then not too much later, still mid-90s, I went to work for a VAR of SPARCstation clones. The IT boss guy was a prolific pornographer. He was well-known on the relevant Usenet groups by a pseudonym. I had no trouble figuring out his identity, and his office was obviously set up so coworkers couldn't find out about all the porn he viewed on the job. His big Sauder desk was facing the door and the monitor was not visible by anyone in the room except him. So he also took advantage of the employer's decent Internet connection and our sizeable Novell storage network, to store his porn and trade it, I guess for free, with other Usenet posters.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by hyperdimension on Saturday January 06, 2024 @08:24PM (#38897419)
I'm curious--when you say "a prolific pornographer," do you mean watcher or, uh, performer? Reading it I think the latter but it sounds like you mean the former.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by NoZebra120vClip on Saturday January 06, 2024 @11:23PM (#38898410)
Oh yeah, sorry, as far as I could tell, he was a collector and trader, not a performer, but who knows, really?
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by progbits on Saturday January 06, 2024 @05:51AM (#38890336)
That narrative is idiotic, sure pirates might buy stolen drives, same as gangs use knives. Stopping one won't affect the other.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by yard2010 on Saturday January 06, 2024 @08:37AM (#38891310)
That's the point, as long as it's illegal criminal would reap the profits. Same with everything else
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by qingcharles on Saturday January 06, 2024 @01:03PM (#38893583)
They ran a legit front business of fitting double-glazed windows I discovered one day by accident, when I ran into them mid-install at a hair salon lol. I'm guessing it gave them some access to the buildings they were stealing from, and at least the opportunity to scope out jobs. The stuff I was buying was mostly commercial, sometimes Sun equipment, etc.

I eventually got raided by the cops and they took all the stuff at my house, but not all the servers which were shoved directly on the JA.NET.

Funnily I would rip off the criminals. Especially on hard drives. They would bring me bags of HDDs and they would say "Hey, we got this 5GB drive for you" and I would bullshit them, "No, that's a 500MB, you're reading it wrong", or "That's unformatted capacity.. it's only 3GB formatted mate".

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by skeaker on Saturday January 06, 2024 @08:40PM (#38897515)
This was in the 90s before torrenting was widespread. Decentralizing filesharing means criminal groups aren't needed and can't easily make a profit off of it.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by detourdog on Saturday January 06, 2024 @07:44AM (#38890981)
I specialized for a while in NYC as someone who get a network of Macs connected to the internet with an ISDN line.

I know exactly what you are talking about.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by peterpost2 on Saturday January 06, 2024 @10:27AM (#38892177)
>I was hit on by several bored housewives, including one that answered the door in her open robe.

When you applied for the job did they list this under the benefits?

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by qingcharles on Saturday January 06, 2024 @01:06PM (#38893617)
It was mentioned by my predecessor who was then my boss lol. I thought he was joking...
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by wnolens on Saturday January 06, 2024 @10:35AM (#38892246)
I did window cleaning in the 2000s and went inside many rich folks homes. It was my favorite part of the job.

But I had a much different experience. They were kind, more humanizing than middle class housewives, and very proud of their homes which were often fully custom to their spec. Most had built a successful business. Perhaps my curiosity went a long way to flatter them, or they saw themselves in me - young and hustling.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by lannisterstark on Saturday January 06, 2024 @06:35PM (#38896730)
>They were kind, more humanizing than middle class housewives

Honestly most "rich rich" people I've come across are like that. Most "snobby" rich people are not honestly that rich at all, comparatively, or are very new money etc. (think of "dude who sold their startup for 20 million").

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by rainonmoon on Sunday January 07, 2024 @12:51AM (#38898853)
An ex worked in luxury travel. She said you could always tell rich-rich from newly rich immediately. The first group would shop for value and look for experiences. Money was like water for them, plentiful but unexceptional. The latter would just hit everything with the biggest number next to it.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by razakel on Monday January 08, 2024 @10:22AM (#38913207)
I've heard the same. The dude with the Ferrari, Armani suit and Rolex is not as rich as he wants you to think.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by smith7018 on Saturday January 06, 2024 @10:46AM (#38892351)
I also did this in the 2000s and while it was fun to peer into their lives, the amount of porn I was forced to see on elderly people's machines was... not great. Especially during those rare occurrences where they wanted to watch what I was doing to "learn how to use the computer." Just awkward all around.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by thelittleone on Saturday January 06, 2024 @10:55AM (#38892428)
Found same on laptop of an insurance company CFO. Had to ignore it.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by lozf on Saturday January 06, 2024 @08:40PM (#38897514)
Yup, C-level execs changing file extensions from .avi to .xls etc. lol.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by alienthrowaway on Sunday January 07, 2024 @12:26AM (#38898737)
I found a stash of porn in C:\Windows\System22 - it caught my attention because I figured it had to be some malware.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by qingcharles on Saturday January 06, 2024 @09:49PM (#38897951)
One of the directors backed up his laptop by copying all his data to a network folder that we primarily used for development. Was looking for a specific image and found whole folder of photos of my boss (director's very, very attractive wife) naked. I had to tell him before anyone else found them. He just grinned, asked if I'd seen them, and then deleted them.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by qingcharles on Saturday January 06, 2024 @12:55PM (#38893503)
It's weird, I must have repaired hundreds of computers. Hundreds of backups, reinstalls, but never once did I come across any porn. This was around 1995 though, so it was very early days of the Internet, and pre-digital cameras.

Now, in the early 2000s I had to buy dozens of smartphones to test out an SMS relay (SMSC). I bought them all on eBay. Like 70% of them had homemade porn of the owners on them still...!

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by refulgentis on Saturday January 06, 2024 @02:56PM (#38894798)
The variety of stories, nonchalance with which you tell them, and a few key signs of exaggeration had me writing off your comments. This one has me publicly saying it.

yeah, sure, all those "early 2000s" "smart phones" with "video" and enough capacity for "home made porn" That was way too short ago to exaggerate this baldly.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by wlesieutre on Saturday January 06, 2024 @04:01PM (#38895424)
Early 2000’s we’re talking phones like the Nokia 6600

https://www.cnet.com/reviews/nokia-6600-review/

> You can also capture the moment on video with the handset's video recorder, which renders brief (10-second), fuzzy images and lo-fi audio. The 6600 stores clips as QCIF files in resolutions of either 176x144 or 128x96, and you can play them using the phone's onboard RealOne player. We got an undeniable kick out of shooting video with the 6600, but the actual clips aren't exactly Oscar worthy. As with the phone book, picture and video storage is limited by only the phone's available memory, but if you're running low, you can store your recordings on the included 32MB MMC media.

Nobody’s saying they were hour long HD professional porn productions

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by refulgentis on Saturday January 06, 2024 @06:09PM (#38896543)
That's why serial exaggerators are corrosive to a community. Yeah, did phones with a video camera exist? Yup. You would have had to be there, know the 8-step fermi estimate chain for the likelihood for a multitude of reasons. (ex. these were slow, terrible beasts extremely difficult to use, they'd very rarely be a heat of the moment option, and if you were preparing, there were a multitude of 100x quality options that anyone who had a video shooting phone then would have had)

Even then you have no defense for taking them too literally, there could be 1000 reasons you're actually just angry and taking it out on them, have a personal dislike, etc.

Another way to talk about why it's clear: inter-alia, multiple rich "bored housewives" throwing themselves at computer repairmen is about as likely as obtaining multiple smart phones with video capabilities and videos and selfshot porn videos on them in the early 2000s. Much less when you start throwing stuff in like "actually I was warned of [the housewives x computer repairman problem] before I took the job!" Lmao.

Usually you wanna be thinking about the cumulative probability of what they say, not the one-off probability.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by qingcharles on Saturday January 06, 2024 @09:45PM (#38897910)
Are you OK? You keep saying video, why? There were video clips, but mostly photos. This was the UK where these types of phones were very commonplace -- your experience might be from a USA perspective where flip phones were still the rage? :)
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by effingwewt on Saturday January 06, 2024 @03:06PM (#38894892)
You've probably never had to repair phones or buy them online used.

What op said very much lines up with my own experience.

I remember flip phones with all kinds of stuff on them.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by qingcharles on Saturday January 06, 2024 @06:09PM (#38896539)
This was 2004 through 2005.

This was the site:

https://web.archive.org/web/20040925205401/http://txtstar.co...

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by dingdong33 on Saturday January 06, 2024 @01:53PM (#38894093)
Could you share them?
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by Nextgrid on Saturday January 06, 2024 @06:25PM (#38896649)
Had a similar experience. Long ago when I was younger and poorer I offered IT support on my country's equivalent of Craigslist.

Fairly well-off elderly chap wanted me to fix his laptop - was an underpowered machine that somehow got Vista installed on it (but no graphics drivers, so everything was in 640x480) so was unusably slow.

Now the proper answer to that would be to just tell him to buy a new computer, but I didn't want to let him down so I figured this machine might be salvageable with a lightweight Linux distro.

Couple months pass by and then I get a call. He's asking why videos aren't working. I ask him what website it was - "double-you double-you double-you... dot... x... hamster... dot com".

Now I didn't particularly care about his extracurricular activities, got him to curl|bash a script I wrote on the spot to get SSH access and installed the Flash player I forgot and sent him on his way. I was surprised he'd just openly admit to it though.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by KRAKRISMOTT on Sunday January 07, 2024 @04:19AM (#38899775)
Did you remember to disable the open ssh server and NAT hole puncher after you finished with installation?
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by Nextgrid on Sunday January 07, 2024 @05:12AM (#38899997)
Pretty sure the script made his machine SSH back to one of mine rather than open ports.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by sandworm101 on Saturday January 06, 2024 @11:30AM (#38892752)
So non-manufacturer repair of electronics lead to vice, criminality and exploding ink cartridges? Don't anyone tell Louis Rossmann. He has whole videos about that being a myth.
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by ByHookOrCrook on Saturday January 06, 2024 @03:39PM (#38895224)
No you didn't get hit on - americans in the mid 90s were racist toward chinamen
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by acheong08 on Sunday January 07, 2024 @09:31PM (#38907601)
I’m confused. Where does he say he’s Chinese? Also, I would be willing to bet not everyone was racist. 1990s wasn’t too far back
Re:Fixing Macs door to door by matheusmoreira on Saturday January 06, 2024 @08:16PM (#38897369)
> I was hit on by several bored housewives, including one that answered the door in her open robe.

Not sure I believe that.

Re:Fixing Macs door to door by PaulHoule on Saturday January 13, 2024 @02:33PM (#38983650)
In the late 1980s I had a friend who was a bit of a thug who ran a BBS that you could download any pirate software you wanted if you paid a monthly membership fee and also worked in some kind of computer warehouse where he would occasionally nick a hard drive and sell it for much less than retail. His apartment was saturated with tobacco smoke and he always had a copy of Atlas Shrugged around.