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Re:The Cheesy Charm of the Clapper by lallysingh on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @11:33AM (#38843509)
North is a qualifier of American - denoting a subset of America. "American" is used by citizens of the USA only because the country's name doesn't give a better moniker. If the USA wasn't rich or powerful, "American" would mean the same as "Asian" or "European."
Re:The Cheesy Charm of the Clapper by PhasmaFelis on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @07:25PM (#38849111)
> North is a qualifier of American - denoting a subset of America.

That would make sense, but language unfortunately isn't obligated to make sense.

In English, "America" unequivocally means the USA. "North America" unequivocally means the continent, and "the Americas" means both continents. This is only a problem because of clashing language and geography standards--in some languages there's only one continent and it's called "America," so it's easy to have misunderstandings between Spanish and English speakers using the same word to mean different things. But neither one is wrong. They're just speaking different languages.

(Neither is wrong about the definitions of the continents, either. Continents are arbitrary and always have been.)

Re:The Cheesy Charm of the Clapper by pyrale on Friday January 05, 2024 @04:47AM (#38877335)
> That would make sense, but language unfortunately isn't obligated to make sense.

I do agree with that, but for a language such as English, spoken all around the world, no one country or group of people gets to decide the meaning of words.

Insisting other people use your definition that you admitted doesn't make sense and making snarky comments like the article author did when they don't comply sounds pretty childish.

> In English, "America" unequivocally means the USA.

That is an extreme claim. As a contextual example, the gadget creators were apparently fine calling their gadget American.

Re:The Cheesy Charm of the Clapper by defrost on Friday January 05, 2024 @04:53AM (#38877366)
> In English, "America" unequivocally means the USA.

Yeah, ... Nah.

Source, six decades of speaking commonwealth english around the globe.

Pretty much the only people who beleive that anything in English is unequivocal are those from central north american regions raised on prescriptive dictionaries and grammars.

Other english speakers use descriptive guides.

Re:The Cheesy Charm of the Clapper by Turing_Machine on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @10:05AM (#38854875)
Nonsense.

United States of America -> America

United States of Mexico -> Mexico

Republic of France -> France

Kingdom of Norway -> Norway

People's Republic of China -> China

Commonwealth of Australia -> Australia

Federated States of Micronesia -> Micronesia

Republic of South Africa -> South Africa

Republic of Korea -> Korea

Do you begin to see the trend here?

Note that the Federated States of Micronesia does not include all of Micronesia -- there are several other countries in that geographic region. Nor does the Republic of South Africa include all of South Africa. Nor does the Republic of Korea include all of Korea.

Besides, the USA was the first, and so far only, one to use "America" in its name, so it gets grandfather rights.

Re:The Cheesy Charm of the Clapper by Turing_Machine on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @10:12AM (#38854960)
Oh, and the Republic of India does not even begin to cover all the territory historically known as "India".