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Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by jeffbee on Sunday December 24, 2023 @07:46PM (#38758523)
America should agree to merge with Mexico. It would be more powerful than anyone has imagined.
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by fy20 on Sunday December 24, 2023 @08:12PM (#38758658)
It would make sense for North America to harmonize more standards to create an bigger economic community between CA, MX and USA.

For example I came across a situation recently where someone want to export a few year old Mercedes vehicle from Canada to USA, and it was impossible as the standards were not harmonized, and the manufacturer would not certify the vehicle as meeting the USA standards.

Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by nradov on Sunday December 24, 2023 @09:04PM (#38758960)
The US government intentionally doesn't harmonize vehicle standards and disallows private importation of cars less than 25 years old as a non-tariff trade barrier. These protectionist measures are terrible for consumers but they are strongly supported by manufacturers, dealers, and unions so the policy is unlikely to change.
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by lnxg33k1 on Sunday December 24, 2023 @07:58PM (#38758593)
Isn’t Mexico already merged with America ? Or it is in another continent?
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by jeffbee on Sunday December 24, 2023 @08:08PM (#38758637)
In English, singular "America" normally refers to the United States of America, not the entire western hemisphere.
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by SOLAR_FIELDS on Sunday December 24, 2023 @08:12PM (#38758657)
Indeed, if you wanted to refer to MEX, CAN + USA as one entity you would use “North America”. But America is colloquially understood to mean USA
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by toomuchtodo on Sunday December 24, 2023 @08:15PM (#38758668)
North American Alliance has a ring to it like the European Union.
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by jdmg94 on Sunday December 24, 2023 @08:17PM (#38758680)
It also means the entire _Continent_ your take is pretty US-centric
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by dragonwriter on Sunday December 24, 2023 @08:25PM (#38758713)
> It also means the entire _Continent No, it doesn't.

"North America" is the continent the USA is on, and South America is a neighboring continent. There is no continent called "America" alone.

Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by defrost on Sunday December 24, 2023 @08:34PM (#38758754)
That depends entirely upon your philosophy Horatio:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent#Number

"Continent" isn't remotely as straightforward as many may think and the teaching on what and what isn't a continent (or counted as such) varies globally.

Different models are taught in different countries.

Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by AnimalMuppet on Sunday December 24, 2023 @08:36PM (#38758766)
North and South America, together, are called "the Americas", not "America".
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by friend_and_foe on Sunday December 24, 2023 @09:03PM (#38758953)
"Germany" means "land of the Germans" but last I checked there's also Austria, Luxembourg, Switzerland, and also Prussia to be historically accurate.
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by rgarciah on Sunday December 24, 2023 @10:47PM (#38759521)
It feels abnormal to many mexicans I know. Why does one country use the name of the entire continent?
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by trealira on Monday December 25, 2023 @01:32AM (#38760354)
In English, it doesn't. The names of those continents are North America and South America.

It feels weird to them because they're used to calling the Americas "America", the US "Estados Unidos" and Americans "estadounidenses". Well, it seems weird to me as a (United States of) American that they use those names. Our cultures are just different.

Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by TMWNN on Monday December 25, 2023 @02:41PM (#38765466)
The United States of America is the only country in the world with "America" in its name.

Calling the US "America" is no more "abnormal" than calling Americans norteamericanos (Even setting aside Mexico also being part of North America, what about Canadians?) or estadounidenses (given Mexico also being the "United Mexican States").

Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by philwelch on Sunday December 24, 2023 @08:23PM (#38758706)
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by NewJazz on Sunday December 24, 2023 @08:42PM (#38758797)
Wyomingites and west virginians don't want their ~~blood poisoned~~ voting power diluted. It'll be a hard sell to reform the US in any significant capacity. I don't foresee it happening soon.
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by rgbrenner on Sunday December 24, 2023 @09:13PM (#38759009)
Mexico has a gdp a bit larger than Florida, the 4th largest state by gdp. Adding Mexico would add less than 7% to our gdp.

The power of the us + Mexico would be very similar to just the US.

Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by hackerlight on Sunday December 24, 2023 @11:29PM (#38759801)
From a national security perspective, wealth is important but so is population size. If you have both, you win. Industrial production is a third factor in national security, related to wealth and population size, and Mexico can help with that. At the moment, Brazil is a non-player but in a hundred years that could change given their population size and you could have a potential Brazil-US rivalry. An integration with Mexico will be a contingency for that, giving north US a buffer zone in addition to a larger population.

From a prosperity perspective, that seven percent will grow, especially when Mexico can benefit from strong US institutions. You also have to factor in that the entire pie will get bigger due to free labor and capital flow, which will be the main win here. So it won't be 107 percent it'll be 107 percent times by a factor.

Mexico is also culturally adjacent to the US being a Catholic majority country and immigrants from Mexico have a history of integrating quickly.

Transfer payments may be needed to make the US lower classes "whole" given they're now competing with so many more people which will dilute their wages. But if done properly it should be a positive sum situation where everyone benefits.

Pan-Americanism is a fundamentally good idea if implemented gradually and carefully.

Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by jeffbee on Monday December 25, 2023 @01:06PM (#38764662)
I completely agree with your positive outlook on the possibilities. Too many people are adopting a zero-sum mindset on the subject.
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by CSMastermind on Sunday December 24, 2023 @09:34PM (#38759131)
Early on in US history the Yucatan tried to join the country and was only narrowly rejected over concerns that it would be a slave state.

After the Mexican-American war Polk wanted the US to expand all the way to modern Santiago de Queretaro and could have easily done it but the guy who ultimately negotiated the treaty on the US' behalf was against the idea of US expansion so negotiated against the US' own interests.

If those two decisions had gone the other way then it seems likely that all of Mexico if not all of Central America would be part of the United States today.

Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by bluish29 on Sunday December 24, 2023 @10:35PM (#38759452)
In this scenario, metric system adoption will probably prevent this merger /s.
Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by foogazi on Monday December 25, 2023 @02:26AM (#38760563)
Why ?

With NAFTA and USMCA the US can reap all the trade benefits without any of the liabilities

Turn on the immigration spigot and control population growth at will

Re:Mexico is now the 12th largest economy in the world by api_or_ipa on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:01AM (#38779996)
Curiously, the US Articles of Confederation explicitly permit the annexation of Canada within the United States but offers no similar offer to Mexico.

> Article XI. Canada acceding to this confederation, and joining in the measures of the united states, shall be admitted into, and entitled to all the advantages of this union: but no other colony shall be admitted into the same, unless such admission be agreed to by nine states.

https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/articles-of-con...