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Re:Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi finally say they will use T... by xpe on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @10:14PM (#38716604)
Some feedback: I only barely realized "plug-and-charge" means something specific. [1] Generally speaking, I wouldn't expect people to know what you mean by the phrase. The problem is that people think they know because it sounds so obvious. The phrase comes across more like: "obviously, yeah, I plug it in and it charges". That understanding leaves vague the number of steps required between "plug" and "charge".

[1] e.g. "The Plug and Charge protocol tells the charging station what kind of EV you're plugging in and conveniently bills you." from https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35044132/plug-and-charge-...

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Re:Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi finally say they will use T... by akouri on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @10:36PM (#38716718)
This is helpful. Generally the customers that land on our website are people who are researching which EV charging solution to install in their apartment complex, so I assumed that they already knew the term. But I guess it's helpful to spell it out.
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Re:Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi finally say they will use T... by lvturner on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @11:08PM (#38716902)
further: EV user and have also have been involved (lightly) in some public(ish) EV Charging projects -- this is the first time I've come across the term "Plug And Charge" in reference to a protocol!

Upside: Every day is a school day and now I have something fun to read in to!

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Re:Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi finally say they will use T... by bravoetch on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:42AM (#38717359)
The phrase seems like it's charge as in billing, not charge as in electricity. Not sure if that is intentional or a happy pun. Anyone that has only experienced Tesla may even assume that superchargers are what everyone else experiences too. Just plug it in and get charged... and billed.
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Re:Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi finally say they will use T... by taneq on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @11:33PM (#38717044)
Aah wait so it's Plug-And-Supply-Currency rather than Plug-And-Supply-Current?
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Re:Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi finally say they will use T... by mceachen on Thursday December 21, 2023 @10:44AM (#38721887)
It’s both. Plug and charge (sometimes referred to as P&C) is the full stack of systems and interactions involved in driving up to a charging station, plugging in your vehicle, transferring electrons, and getting charged for it, all without having to open an app or present a payment instrument at time of charge.

Electrify America has supported P&C for DC fast charging on Ford vehicles, for example, but it required setup beforehand, and came with downsides (like not supporting EA’s member-discount charge rate).

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