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Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by Johnny555 on Saturday December 16, 2023 @12:07PM (#38665823)
I was going to suggest that adding a 12 or 24 cent piece would be an easier sell since people are already used to dealing with 12's due to clocks.

But in my observation, the younger generations are less adept at that -- if I tell my nephew it's "quarter 'till 3", he says "I don't know what that means", then I explain it and he has to really think about it and do the math in his head to figure out what time it is. Which makes sense since I grew up reading analog clock, and he most often uses his phone or iWatch with a digital time display most of the the time -- the habit of breaking time into quarters is not as intuitive.

Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by oceanplexian on Saturday December 16, 2023 @12:26PM (#38666043)
I always thought it was a weird colloquialism. Saying quarter to three takes exactly the same number of syllables as two forty-five, and the latter is more clear when communicating. You’re also using the word “to” which could be confused with “two” if the communication is garbled over the radio or a bad connection.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by fnorder on Saturday December 16, 2023 @02:20PM (#38666947)
If you have a wristwatch with hands you may not want to identify the exact minute (this can be a little difficult if it has a smaller face), but if it's 5 minutes either way then a "quarter-to" is close enough.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by betenoire on Saturday December 16, 2023 @02:34PM (#38667045)
To me, it's about the significant digits. 2:46 is still a quarter to three.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by WalterBright on Saturday December 16, 2023 @05:39PM (#38668438)
When I was in college, it was a thing for students to design and build a digital LED clock out of random logic. A friend of mine wanted to make one that would tell time only in 15 minute chunks, as nobody needed more precise time than that.

Yes, I did a digital clock, too, my first digital design/build. It never did work right.

Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by sp332 on Saturday December 16, 2023 @02:18PM (#38666935)
I don't really feel every minute passing. If I want to know what time of day it is, putting it in terms of hours is more useful. If you're setting a timer or something where the minutes matter, then you can say 2:45.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by function_seven on Saturday December 16, 2023 @12:37PM (#38666156)
Even worse, I don’t know what “it’s a quarter of three” means. I’ve looked it up, but for some reason I forget it by the time it’s quarter of four!
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by wisemang on Saturday December 16, 2023 @01:31PM (#38666571)
Took me ages to remember what folks in the UK mean when they say “half six” — it’s 6:30, not “half to six” — even just now I had to double check myself.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by jamiek88 on Saturday December 16, 2023 @04:00PM (#38667623)
Typically we say half past six though which is a bit clearer. That can sometimes get a little blurred with accents particularly some northern ones haf ‘pa six.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by Symbiote on Saturday December 16, 2023 @01:48PM (#38666691)
This is varies by language. In several languages including English, "half six" is an abbreviation of "half [[an hour] past] six". In others, it's "half [[an hour] to] six".
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by Zach_the_Lizard on Saturday December 16, 2023 @03:59PM (#38667617)
To this American, "half six" sounds like a roundabout way to describe the number three and not a way to says it's 6:30 (or 5:30 for that matter).

I've never heard anyone say that

Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by euroderf on Saturday December 16, 2023 @02:01PM (#38666806)
I confuse Finns by saying (at 2330 / 1130pm) that it's "half zero" (puoli nolla). Apparently the consensus concept does not include negative times.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by stevage on Saturday December 16, 2023 @03:28PM (#38667401)
Ha, like in french for some reason you can say "and a half" for hours up to 12 but not beyond. Onze heures et demi. Treize heures trente.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by 1986 on Saturday December 16, 2023 @01:48PM (#38666693)
Yeah I find this one exhausting too because meanwhile in German "half six" is exactly that, "halfway to six"
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by jfk13 on Saturday December 16, 2023 @02:41PM (#38667092)
But "halfway to six" should be three, surely? (Sorry!)

As a British person who learned Swedish -- which also uses that convention -- around the age of 10, I often found myself a little uncertain when hearing "half six" in English, as I grew up with the more explicit "half past six".

Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by em-bee on Saturday December 16, 2023 @05:00PM (#38668140)
in austria you can learn about "viertel sechs" (quarter six) and "dreiviertel sechs" (three quarter six).

i'll let you work out whether those are "viertel nach fünf" (quarter past five) or "viertel vor sechs" (quarter to six), or "viertel nach sechs" (quarter past six), or "viertel vor sieben" (quarter two seven)

Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by Affric on Saturday December 16, 2023 @04:51PM (#38668064)
Hours are older than minutes and it's conceptually more simple to only use one unit.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by Johnny555 on Saturday December 16, 2023 @05:44PM (#38668490)
Maybe it's to convey a lack of precision, "quarter till 3" is ambiguous and could be anywhere from around 2:41-2:49 (pretty much any time the minute hand is past 40 and before 50), while if you say 2:45 you generally mean 2:45 (2:40, of course is "20 till 3", but is also a bit ambiguous)

It feels easier and more natural to round to the nearest 5 or 15 minutes with an analog clock than a digital clock. But I grew up in a time when analog clocks were the norm and digital clocks and watches were an expensive novelty (or used for special purpose clocks) so I became used to analog clocks (and use an analog display on my watch, even though I could just as easily set it to a digital display).

When I do use a digital clock, I generally read the time that's displayed, I don't mentally round to the nearest 5 or 15 minutes, only with an analog clock.

Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by waveBidder on Saturday December 16, 2023 @01:11PM (#38666444)
the 1913 penny is 30 cents today. bring back the dollar coin and drop everything but the quarter.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by ghaff on Saturday December 16, 2023 @02:23PM (#38666970)
I grew up with analog clocks. How I would answer would probably depend on where I got the answer from. If it came from an analog clock I'd probably say quarter to. If from a digital clock I'd probably give a rounded answer like 2:45.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by stevage on Saturday December 16, 2023 @03:25PM (#38667384)
Fwiw I'm 43 and much the same. I grew up with a microwave clock and a digital watch and never got to the point of being able to glance at an analog clock and read the time. I can figure it out but it's not intuitive.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by WalterBright on Saturday December 16, 2023 @05:40PM (#38668452)
I prefer an analog clock because I can read it at a glance without even needing my glasses. Without glasses, a 7 segment display just looks like a row of 8's.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by stevage on Sunday December 17, 2023 @12:31AM (#38670548)
Yes, I see the advantages, but that doesn't make it possible.
Re:What This Country Needs is an 18¢ Piece [pdf] by wolfgang42 on Saturday December 16, 2023 @03:36PM (#38667448)
My experience is that I didn’t really ‘get’ analog clocks until I was old enough to start managing my own schedule. They’re useful for quickly visualizing addition/subtraction of intervals*, but until I was a grown-up I just didn’t need that skill, since times were always told to me by adults rather than something I regularly needed to calculate for myself.

* (“How long until I need to leave to catch the bus for that appointment? Oh, it’s twenty to quarter before half past three, I still have some time”)